[VadeRetro]

No agenda here, is there?

Is there an agenda when people are so ignorant of the idea of evolution that they ask, "If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" Is there an agenda when people adopt so luddite a stance to science that they root for the gaps in our knowledge to expand, that they interpret every ambiguity or plus-or-minus error bar in measurement as absolute ignorance? I suppose the ultimate victory for such people would be to wake up in a world in which all scientific knowledge to date had been lost.

That is the science of ID. It offers nothing but the message that we know nothing and can never know anything so we might as well assume everything is supernatural. Sounds like an agenda to me.

I already know that the premise behind the agenda is wrong. And I'm not impressed with willful ignorance and lawyerly deceit as attempted persuasion.

[dubyagee]

Is there an agenda when people are so ignorant of the idea of evolution that they ask, "If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"

It's a legitimate question from someone who obviously doesn't understand the anwser. Why don't you try explaining it to them, instead of immediately assuming they are not capable of understanding. Because someone doesn't immediately accept the "double-speak" of some scientists does not mean they lack intelligence. It may mean they are actually thinking for themselves. That's a rare commodity in today's world. You guys are no different from the creationists. You let several books do your thinking for you, we let one help us with ours.