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Bush Warned Privately of Coming Nuke
NewsMax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 24, 2001 9:56 a.m. EDT | staff writer

Posted on 09/24/2001 4:13:04 PM PDT by yoe

Hours before his rousing Thursday night address to a joint session of Congress, President Bush warned a congressional prayer meeting that there was credible evidence a second wave of terrorist attacks would strike the U.S., this time featuring chemical, biological or even nuclear weapons.

"It was quite a remarkable scene," Newsweek's Howard Fineman told radioman Don Imus Monday morning.

"The president confessed to [the prayer meeting] his anxieties. He said, 'You know, I have to walk a fine line here. You know my problem.'"

Bush then explained:

"I don't want to alarm people. But there is evidence, there's enough evidence that we face further attacks."

The president's warning included the phrase "chemical, biological and plutonium - meaning the possibility of even nuclear terrorism," the Newsweek reporter said.

Read former Soviet intelligence agent Stanislav Lunev's advice to America on how to prevent nuclear terrorism: "Bush Must Warn Rogue States of Nuclear Retaliation"


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I think there is a lot of disinformation flying around designed to scare and confuse. Stay behind the President!
1 posted on 09/24/2001 4:13:04 PM PDT by yoe (yoe)
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To: yoe
That's why we need to launch a pre-emptive first strike and annihilate the terrorist states (or as Reuters would call them "freedom fighting states").
2 posted on 09/24/2001 4:18:56 PM PDT by LenS
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To: yoe
Newsweek's Howard Fineman

Look no further; Fineman is a lefty rabble-rouser, a confirmed pathological liar, Bush-hater, commie lover, muck-raker and all-around dipsh*t.

3 posted on 09/24/2001 4:19:29 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: yoe
Any nuke attack would be met with nukes all over afghanistan- Iraq, and maybe even Syria, Libya, and Eygpt. In fact I think we would have too. I don't think any but a fringe would object. After that- massive invasion of what remains in conjuction with Russia and give the chinese a cut as well. Pour in the missionaries and like the days of old- give food to only those who renounce Allah and Muhammed in public and convert. Radical? Sounds so- but if a nuke goes off in Boston or Chicago- I suspect 98 percent of America would agree to such thinking.
4 posted on 09/24/2001 4:20:25 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: yoe
To quote Margaret Thatcher- "Now is no time to get wobbley" Folks support our President and America.
5 posted on 09/24/2001 4:24:19 PM PDT by Disgusted in Texas
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To: Burkeman1
I would concur even if that nuke went off in a town as small as Belgrade, Montana. Not where I'm from, BTW.
6 posted on 09/24/2001 4:25:10 PM PDT by .308
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To: yoe
Chemical weapons are possible. Biological weapons aren't. If bin Laden had working nukes or radiological devices (fizzly old xSoviet nukes), he would have used them on Sept. 11.
7 posted on 09/24/2001 4:34:22 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud
Biological weapons aren't.

I think they are quite the possibility.

8 posted on 09/24/2001 4:38:29 PM PDT by riri
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To: yoe
This article can't be right.

If Bush were warned "privately" how the heck does this reporter claim to know?

9 posted on 09/24/2001 4:43:06 PM PDT by Precisian
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To: yoe
More of Clinton's legacy. These terrorists have had ample opportunity to build their infrastructure within the United States while Clinton gutted the CIA, desenfranchised the NSA and corrupted the FBI, all the while opening our borders to anyone with the will to sneak in. Our intelligence community and our law enforcement agencies are busy playing catch-up ball at this point... doing those things today which are more reactive than pre-emptive, thanks to Clinton's revulsion of law enforcement and national security organizations. Pray God that He will provide our intelligence community and law enforcement organizations the wisdom, will and discernment to prevent more deaths.
10 posted on 09/24/2001 4:52:20 PM PDT by waxhaw
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To: yoe
There was someone---I believe an Administration official---on the Sunday talk shows who candidly stated that resort to a weapon of mass destruction by the Jihadists would be met by nuclear retaliation---no ifs, ands, or buts. Was it Rumsfeld? Did anyone else see and hear what I'm talking about?
11 posted on 09/24/2001 4:54:39 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: yoe
The president's warning included the phrase "chemical, biological and plutonium - meaning the possibility of even nuclear terrorism," the Newsweek reporter said.

I wouldn't doubt a nuclear threat. But, from the first part of the statement, "nuclear terrorism" may have been erroneously drawn from "plutonium"... as in plutonium poisoning: no explosion, but plutonium particles released into the air. I don't remember all the specifics of plutonium poisoning, but it would be plenty bad.


12 posted on 09/24/2001 4:56:09 PM PDT by EdZep (Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.)
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To: EdZep
Some interesting reading: A Perspective On The Dangers of Plutonium
14 posted on 09/24/2001 5:22:05 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
Hey, thanks! It appears the risk of "respirable" plutonium has been vastly overstated. Here's the summary, from the 1995 Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory report:

Summary

In summary, the claims of dire health consequences from the introduction of plutonium into the air or into a municipal water supply are greatly exaggerated. The combination of rapid and almost complete sedimentation, dilution in large volumes of water, and minimal uptake of plutonium from the GI tract would all act to preclude serious health consequences to the public from the latter scenario. And although the dispersal of plutonium in air (as the result of a fire or explosion, for example) would cause immense concern and cleanup problems, it would not result in widespread deaths or dire health consequences, as terrorists might hope. Dissipation due to wind and air turbulence would rapidly dilute any respirable aerosol. Only people within a few meters of the source could receive a prompt lethal dose. Delayed effects in the form of fatal cancers outside this region would probably not appear in affected individuals until years later. For a vast majority of the population of any city, the increase in cancer risk arising from exposure to plutonium aerosol would be a fraction of that arising from other, more common health hazards.

None of the above discussion should be taken to mean that the diversion and illicit use of plutonium is not a serious international problem. Such illicit use does have the potential for serious physical and psychological impacts on the public. We are concerned, however, that erroneous and exaggerated statements in the media may actually promote a market for stolen and smuggled nuclear material for the purpose of nuclear terrorism. Ignorance and fear should not play major roles in deciding how to deal with such potential threats.


15 posted on 09/24/2001 5:30:23 PM PDT by EdZep (Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.)
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To: EdZep
Yikes.
16 posted on 09/24/2001 5:38:11 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz
HOW YOU STOP TERRORISM??

CLEAN SHIP BY RIDDING AMERICA OF ANTI-AMERICANS and SOCIALISTS AND TERRORISTS.

THE BRADY BUNCH, CLINTON, GORE, SCHUMER, FINESTEIN, HANDGUN CONTROL INC. AS THEY ARE THE ENEMY WITHIN OUR BORDERS.

THE AMERICAN CITIZEN IS THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE ALWAYS.

THROW THE RASCELS OUT!!!!!

HERE IS THE REAL STORY

(THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISARMING US)

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HERE IS THE REAL STORY ON ARMING PILOTS.

FIVE THOUSAND LOST LIVES FOR THE WANT OF TWO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY DOLLARS.

Israel Airlines bolts the Cockpit door and all Pilots and copilots carry Firearms.

(TELL THE AIRLINE PRESIDENTS AND CEO'S)

New Release

Ponder for a moment.

We trust a pilot with a 30 million-dollar plane knowledgeable of complex airplane functions, but government policy will not allow them to operate a simple firearm.

I’LL FLY AGAIN WHEN PILOTS ARE ARMED.

Israel Airlines bolts the Cockpit door and all Pilots and copilots carry Firearms.

Scanning the websites this week the following thread from Pilots, Law Enforcement, and American Citizens discuss ways to take positive action against air terrorism.

We trust a fancy security question (Thanks to Jim Kallstom, former FBI, did you pack your bags?) but not millions of active and retired law enforcement officers to Citizen Carry on an airplane.

May I rant for a second! Get these liberal, antigun activists out of our government decision making process. Consider, Israel Airlines policy is to bolt the door, arms it pilots, and has armed travelers in the cabin.

We allow lowly-paid gate-guards to gate dis-arm us, creating a "killing zone of disarmed citizens", as passingers "do battle" in the sky with terrorists, using passion for weapons because misguided government policy has left us defenseless.

The government can not protect you when the terrorist is eyeball to eyeball with you. Now they have ban my pocketknife used to clean my nails. What next, bottles, because they can be smashed for a weapon??

Most all of the former military pilots strapped firearms to their legs when on active duty. Today they are considered not capable, wear the wrong uniform, or untrust worthy.

This BS about putting a 9mm hole in the skin of an airplane will bring it down is more rhetoric and fiction than fact. Just ask the thousand of airmen who returned from flights over Germany in WWII. How about the 747 over Hawaii with a 20-foot hole in the side. Still got a problem with possible decompression? Consider the alternative!

I’ll trust anyday my life to any active or retired law enforcement officer to CITIZEN CARRY on any airline.

I’ll trust anyday my life to any pilot or copilot active or retired to carry on any airline.

I’ll trust any American citizen willing to CITIZEN CARRY after extensive training to carry on any airline. It is a huge responsibility, however, the current "Killing Zones" set up by faulty thinking is killing our husbands, wives, children, and our nation.

I am sure thousands perhaps millions of American’s would trust their life to armed pilots, copilots, air crew members, retired, policemen, FBI, CIA, ATF, or American Citizens willing to train, quality, and stay current with cabin safety issues keeping America airlines safe.

I personally trust all of the above personnel, rather than phony security questions, low-pay air guards, unlocked backdoor food and cleaning functions or gates at airports, or government officials with big titles.

WHO DO YOU TRUST THE GOVERNMENT? OR DO YOU TRUST HONEST AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO LIVE AND BREATH FAMILY SAFETY WHEN TRAVELING?

What do you want in your cockpit, a pilot and copilot with a firearm, or a terrorist? 2,180 dollars (four colt pistols)would have prevented all four terrorist acts and saved five thousand lives.

Government will spend billions of dollars with highly visible, and breach-able security that irritates American citizens during check-in when other more effective obvious solutions exist. Just ask Israel.

Thousands of American veterans, retired LEO's and American Citzens want to sign up today to fight terrorism. Don't tell them they are unqualified. If you do tell them they are unqualifed, they may have a word or two for you.

Visit keepandbeararms.com to carry the fight.

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( KEEPANDBEARARMS )

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Advising Director

end Five thousand American Citizens lost their life for the want of two thousand one hundred eight dollars.

(TELL THE AIRLINE PRESIDENTS AND CEO'S)

Other websites with Pilot talk

( Federal Observer help pilots reclaim cockpits )

http://www.federalobserver.com/index.php?section=Arm+Pilots+NOW%21

(Five thousand lose live for want of a shoelace)

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ba6ac034145.htm

( Serra Times talk freedom )

http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/18/arfs091801.htm

( Kamikaze Pilots on U.S. Soil)

http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/14/arfl091401.htm

(Dear Airline Executives)

http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/18/arnj091801.htm

(Where is Mommy?)

http://www.saveourguns.com/selfdefense.htm

( Mothers for Self defense )

http://www.2asisters.org/safety/index.htm

<a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24549”>( Captains to FAA Focus on cockpits Pilots argue for bullet-proof doors, cameras, guns)</a><P> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24549 <P> end <P>

17 posted on 09/24/2001 5:45:22 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (lawjj2@allways.net)
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To: 45Auto
You sir have unfairly denigrated Fineman. There's absolutely no evidence that he's ever loved a commie. Yuk, yuk.
18 posted on 09/24/2001 6:51:10 PM PDT by driftless
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To: Thud
"Chemical weapons are possible"

Two experts on FOX just said that chemical weapons like saren gas are not as likely to cause mass deaths because the sheer volume and bulk required to do serious damage would be hard to transport to the target location. They gave the saren gas attack in Japan as an example.

19 posted on 09/24/2001 9:49:11 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: .308
Belgrade, Montana

Belgrade is located in Gallatin County near the Gllatin National Forest.

A small town on Interstate 90, northwest of Bozeman.

(BTW, I agree with you)

20 posted on 09/24/2001 9:57:04 PM PDT by blam
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