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Posted on 09/24/2001 11:11:46 AM PDT by Scythian

I am a Christian but I am still afraid, especially for my young children. I know that it is difficult to find the US in biblical prophecy, especially in the end times. Could it be that we simply don't exist? I fear that is the answer.

Maybe the beast that rises out of the sea in revelation is not the UN but Terrorism, different from the others beasts is it not? There is no way the US can protect itself from biological, chemical or nuclear weapons, we haven't the will to fight political correctness and evict our enemies.

As terrible as this sounds, I'm afraid, I mean really afraid, it's effecting my ability to concentrate and work. Forgive me for posting this.


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To: Star Traveler
You must forgive the delay in my response, Star Traveler. I have just finished Yom Kippur, so couldn't quite get back to you right away. However. Now that the High Holy Days are over, why have you have decided that I know little or nothing about the Bible?
Have you ever tried to translate a Quatrane from Nostradamus? Some of them are quite subjective depending on the situation of the times.
The Scripture from the New Testament is quite familiar to me. It was rather odd that I found someone trying to interpret that same scripture using George Bush. It occurred to me that Clinton was far worse than Bush, and some of those descriptive phrases fit good ol' BC lots better than they fit GWB.
So, pardon me if I am not politically or religiously correct enough for you. The NT isn't exactly interpreted correctly by zillions of people, but it weren't a war over Revelation I was trying to start here. It was simply an observation that if there were any current ways to interpret that particular set of descriptions, I gotta give old Beezlebubba his due.
Pax Tecum,
Nix
221 posted on 09/29/2001 4:43:12 AM PDT by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Scythian
If you want to get technical, there are two nations (of currently large stature) that don't make it to the biblical final dance, the United States and Egypt!

Now does that mean this is these are the end times? I don't know and neither does any well meaning pastor/rabbi, etc.

A true child of God just lives on....he/she has already been bought with a price.

222 posted on 09/29/2001 4:51:36 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: Fighting Irish
A true child of God just lives on...

In that, I must agree. We often fear death whether we know it is coming or whether it overtakes us by surprise. But if your faith is strong and your life has been the best you could make of it, fear has no place invading your peace of mind.
Yea though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil for Thou art with me.
Words to live by.

223 posted on 09/29/2001 5:01:51 AM PDT by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Scythian
I would suggest reading the text of George Washington's vision of the Holy Spirit at Valley Forge 1777.

Click here

224 posted on 09/29/2001 5:03:41 AM PDT by SirPsycho
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To: Scythian
Journalism is the counsel of fear.

Don't imbibe.

Why Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary and Illegitimate.

225 posted on 09/29/2001 5:14:42 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Fighting Irish
If you want to get technical, there are two nations (of currently large stature) that don't make it to the biblical final dance, the United States and Egypt!

In fact there seems to be no mention of the entire Western Hemisphere. There is one allusion "the lion and her cubs" which could POSSIBLY refer to Britain and the United States.

By the pre-trib "rapture" view, the one which IMHO answers the most questions about the Bible, all Christians are going to be suddenly removed from the Earth before the end time fun REALLY begins. I expect the world to see a New World Order -- globalization with a vengeance -- at that point. The USA, whose distinctive character had been long guarded by Christian faith, will quickly merge into the global order at that point.

226 posted on 09/29/2001 5:26:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Scythian
Even though the beast of Rev 13 may be around, it's just a sign of the end times . Nothing to worry about if you're with Him . Simply go back to work on tasks He's issued .

Cheese.

227 posted on 09/29/2001 5:28:31 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: Scythian
bump to 226
228 posted on 09/29/2001 5:28:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: PaxMacian
Be afraid!

Be not afraid .

Pray and trust in Him for comfort and guidance .

Cheese.

Never put words into Gods mouth, otherwise you've blasphemed .

229 posted on 09/29/2001 5:36:59 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I've noticed that the CHURCHES have been in the vanguard of those forces that have promoted massive immigration,

That's because they get paid millions of taxpayer dollars to "process" these people.If they had to suddenly start to provide English teachers,"culture" teachers,housing assistants,drivers,vans,food kitchens,health care,etc,etc,etc, on their OWN dime,this support would stop overnight.

230 posted on 09/29/2001 6:24:08 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: #3Fan, Thinkin' Gal
I always miss the good threads. Don't ya'll have jobs? ;)
231 posted on 09/29/2001 7:11:26 AM PDT by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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To: Scythian
I had read somewhere that the commandment to not "be afraid" is the most frequent one given in the scripture.

It took me a while, but I count, in my Strong's concordance, 81 times we are told to FEAR NOT. Then there are at least 48 times that the command to BE NOT AFRAID is given. Many times these are followed by the enjoinder to be anxious for nothing or be of good cheer.

If God repeated Himself that many times, don't you think that he meant it?

Medicine has found that when we are are worried, our bodies release stuff which actually attacks itself causing all sorts of physical maladies.

Just leave God's stuff to HIM and you won't have anything to be afraid OF!

232 posted on 09/29/2001 8:37:00 AM PDT by MIgramma
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To: teresat
Jude 9 says, "Yet Michael, the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, dared NOT bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The LORD rebuke thee."

Where? do you get a notion of Michael Stomping the devil if he even dared not rebuke him?

233 posted on 09/29/2001 9:00:49 AM PDT by MIgramma
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To: Proverbs2
I always miss the good threads. Don't ya'll have jobs? ;)

ummmm.....what do ya mean?

234 posted on 09/29/2001 9:17:46 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
You must forgive the delay in my response, Star Traveler. I have just finished Yom Kippur, so couldn't quite get back to you right away. However. Now that the High Holy Days are over, why have you have decided that I know little or nothing about the Bible?

Hmmm..., well, you'll have to forgive me for asking -- but -- when did I talk to you? I don't see that I was talking to you, but rather, to Scythian -- and in accordance with the original posting.

Did you get me mixed up with someone else that was talking to you? Now I'm confused -- here.

235 posted on 09/29/2001 9:32:06 AM PDT by Star Traveler (aldebaran6640@hotmail.com)
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To: Star Traveler
To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh Clinton is like the leopard in that he never changed his spots. The bear is The Soviet Union, where Clinton spent some of the Viet Nam War. The lion is Israel, which Clinton mesmerized, stole their election, and almost forced to suicide. The dragon is China whose blood money kept Clinton in power and allowed him to corrupt the earth, starting here first.

This is total "garbage prophecy". It's so "whacked" that it doesn't fit anything that the Bible says.

It's something like "pop prophecy" from "newspaper headlines" and a dose of "political persuasion".

Try really reading and studying what the Bible says about these things. The Bible defines who the dragon is (for one thing) -- in pretty clear and in exact terms -- that you choose to ignore. And you're ignoring the rest of what the Bible says about these things, too.

179 Posted on 09/25/2001 07:25:54 PDT by Star Traveler
(aldebaran6640@hotmail.com)

This IS you, isn't it? I fasted for Yom Kippur, but don't think I've gone senile yet. LOL

236 posted on 09/29/2001 9:49:04 AM PDT by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Scythian
In Psalm 55:4—8, we read David’s first-hand account of feeling overwhelmed. You may feel overwhelmed right now by difficulties surrounding you. Overwhelming emotions are not wrong; clinging to them is.

God wants us to tell Him how we feel and then let go of it. He wants us to know that because He loves us and is in control of our life, we do not have to live under a cloud of overwhelming doom or anxiety.

237 posted on 09/29/2001 9:52:33 AM PDT by DreamWeaver
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
This IS you, isn't it? I fasted for Yom Kippur, but don't think I've gone senile yet. LOL

:)

Now I see what happened. I looked at the post that you were replying to.

On Post #221, it says you were replying to Post #220. So, I usually look back at the posts, to see what was said (earlier), so I can understand a person's reply. Thus, when I looked at Post #220, I saw that it was Scythian that I was replying to. And so, I couldn't figure out why you were replying to that one.

Thus, I was confused as to what post you were replying to.

But, now that I do s "search" through the whole thread, I find the one that you are referencing. Keep in mind, it's helpful to "reply" directly on the "post #" that you're answering -- in order to keep things orderly and "in context". That's the only way I can figure out what is going on in a thread that is about 200 or more posts long.

Now that I see which one you're replying to, I'll go back and look at it again.

238 posted on 09/29/2001 10:00:37 AM PDT by Star Traveler (aldebaran6640@hotmail.com)
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
I fasted for Yom Kippur, [...]

I take it to mean that you're a Jew (by saying this). Are you a Messianic Jew? I only ask this because you make reference to the book of Revelation, of which I don't think one would find a Jew, outside of a Messianic Jew, making that kind of reference.

Obviously one would not find a non-Jew observing Yom Kippur. I simply wanted to know what direction you were coming from, in answering that portion of prophecy (part of which is in Revelation -- i.e., do you take it to be the Word of God, in the same manner as the law, prophets and writings?).

239 posted on 09/29/2001 10:10:58 AM PDT by Star Traveler (aldebaran6640@hotmail.com)
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To: #3Fan
just kidding. I would have liked to jump into this one but I work so much that I always seem to find the topics that interest me in threads when they're dead.
240 posted on 09/29/2001 1:08:47 PM PDT by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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