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To: Jim Robinson
Accurate reply Jim (#34).

I have noted that most of these "dreamers" only complain and offer no concrete suggestions on how we (America) can effectively deal with a fanatical enemy sworn to the destruction of our way of life (which includes them).

While, the mention, of a director of "Homeland Defense" has ominous tones, the thought of more barbaric acts that could very well lead to the loss of not 7,000 innocent lives, but rather 70,000, 700,000 or 7,000,000 is much more horrific and I for one am not going to argue over the semantics. They claim we will loose freedoms, and yet we already have simply by the act. Many of us have lost the freedom to feel secure in our persons and homes due to the act of "war" visited upon all of us by enemies both foreign and domestic on 911. We have lost the freedom of movement due to the acts of fanatical terrorists and their supporters both in and outside our nations boundaries. We (all of us) will be making some tough choices in the coming days, weeks, months, and perhaps years. But "our common" good has to come first. The time has come perhaps that we may have to choose between our common rights and individual rights and they won't be easy choices in some instances. But this is a new day and it is a day that absolutely requires bold and innovative leadership and I for one am not going to sit back and take pot shots at the decisions of our leadership without presenting a viable alternative.

The act of war perpetrated by militant Islamic Fundamentalists can not go unanswered. I for one am grateful we have some leadership that is embarking upon a course of action. I am buoyed by the fact that this leadership, that took office in a dead heat election, settled by our constitution and ultimate court is not only taking action but to date has the unparalleled support of roughly 90% of our fellow citizens.

The "bomb them with butter" crowd has always been and will always be with us. That is a fact. Their message only gets more attention when we allow it to do so.

As I started, thanks for #34 and I am waiting to see if any of the nay-sayers have any plausible answer to the series of great questions you asked. I doubt they will.

Ain't the freedom and ability to state one's opinions freely grand?

Thank you again for creating this forum that allows us to do so, within your, actually quite liberal posting policies.

142 posted on 09/24/2001 8:07:52 AM PDT by ImpBill
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To: ImpBill
But "our common" good has to come first. The time has come perhaps that we may have to choose between our common rights and individual rights and they won't be easy choices in some instances.

My solution is to clamp down the borders. Make it difficult to get a visa, require every visa applicant be sponsored by a citizen, and make that citizen responsible for keeping track of the sponsoree. Set up a system for following up on expired visas. Keep track of everyone who leaves the country so we can remove the ones who leave from the list.

That is the long range solution, I'm still trying to think of a way to handle the illegals already in this country. In any case, a national id card is going too far down the slope toward a police state.

146 posted on 09/24/2001 8:23:53 AM PDT by 6ppc
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To: ImpBill
While, the mention, of a director of "Homeland Defense" has ominous tones, the thought of more barbaric acts that could very well lead to the loss of not 7,000 innocent lives, but rather 70,000, 700,000 or 7,000,000 is much more horrific and I for one am not going to argue over the semantics.

But isn't this the argument Socialists use (for instance, when they want power to stop "global warming")? Namely, what could happen is so horrible that we can't take the chance, and thus must give them more power?
320 posted on 09/24/2001 12:53:16 PM PDT by sendtoscott
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