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To: catpuppy
Back in the Twenties, Goldwater's Uncle Moe ran for mayor of Phoenix. He and his opponent -- good friends all -- ran an interesting campaign. First, Moe and his opponent would go to a rally in Moe's car, imbibing along the way (it was during Prohibition). At the rally Moe would speak first, calling his opponent a sonofabitch, and then his opponent would speak, calling Moe a sonofabitch. Then they'd hop into Moe's car, drink some more, go to the next rally, but this time Moe's opponent would speak first, and the order would be reversed.

In 1963, Goldwater suggested to Kennedy that the 1964 campaign be conducted under the same rules. The two would campaign from city to city in Air Force I, sipping bourbon and honing their arguments against each other along the way. Kennedy and Goldwater were very close friends, and Goldwater saw this as a chance to have a great debate on the issues. If he was going to go down in flames to his friend Kennedy, it would be on the issues in one of the country's greatest campaigns. (According to Kenny O'Donnell, Kennedy's press secretary after Pierre Salinger, Kennedy agreed to the arrangement because he felt Goldwater would be easy to beat.)

It would have been a magnificent campaign had Kennedy been permitted to let it happen that way. And Goldwater might have pulled it off.

16 posted on 09/24/2001 9:25:02 AM PDT by Publius
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To: Libertina, Billthedrill, big ern
For your enjoyment.
17 posted on 09/24/2001 1:09:54 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Publius
That's an interesting and great story about the Goldwater/Kennedy debates idea.

Well my political start was with the Reagan campaigns, so I missed out on '64. The article seems to try and thread race into every aspect of that campaign, so I immediately smelled a RAT. Was it really that important to the '64 campaign, or anything close to how this author portrays it? I'm sure it mattered, but this story reminds me of how a Stephanopolous would write it.

30 posted on 04/27/2002 10:34:12 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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