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To: Doug Loss
The reason why Prime Minister Clark has not used the ANZUS agreement, is because in 1986 the US Government notified the Cabinet of the day that they no longer wished to have a defence relationship with New Zealand and had no interest in protecting our sovereignty, basically because the then Prime Minister Rt Hon. David Lange, made New Zealand a Nuclear-Free Country (the First country in the world to have such a policy) and denied access to US (and all other including australian) Nuclear War ships. So in fact New Zealand ceased to be a member of ANZUS in 1986. However the US government has asked our Cabinet to put our elite SAS forces on alert with the British Army suggesting them as suitable to the US, along with the SAS our intelligence services are also being used. I take great offence at your remarks and personal attacks on our Prime Minister. As for your World War remarks, New Zealand was involved from the start in Both world wars and did not wait to be attacked, as a result per-head of population more soldiers from New Zealand died than ANY other country, which is something we as a nation we are proud of. We may be small (current pop 3.8million) but we give our all, and irrational and ignorant attacks on a small country like ours, does nothing to stop terror attacks. So in future why not do some proper investigation into the background of decisions and events, and base your articles on facts instead of using the writings of a regional newspaper with absolutely no political credibility like the PRESS. Why not spend your energy attacking the people who attacked you, not the people who your country snobbed following a disagreement on policy. Miss Clark was right in not recognising ANZUS, as it hasnt applied here since July 1986, so while you may not like the fact that we didnt back down to you like so many other countries, we are what we are and that is Nuclear Free and Proud, but we are also, as our Government said when it held a special session the day of the attacks, committed to assisting in the fight against terror attacks, just as we were during the Boer War, World War One AND Two, the Korean War, Vietnam, the Solomon Islands, the Gulf War, Bosnia, and currently in East Timor (a place which the US refused to help the UNs work) so get your facts right in future before attacking another small country, we have nothing in our past to be ashamed about!
93 posted on 09/20/2001 5:59:01 AM PDT by Helen Rocks!
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To: Helen Rocks!
to add to what i just said, you should maybe check out www.labour.org.nz/clark/index.html and have a look under speeches and releases and just see who it was that established a book of condolences in the foyer of parliament for mourners to sign, which will then be handed on to the United States Embassy which has thanked Miss Clark for her offers of support and condolences.... Thats crazy for someone who many of you have protrayed as an American hater isnt it.
94 posted on 09/20/2001 6:20:22 AM PDT by Helen Rocks!
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To: Helen Rocks!
I take great offence at your remarks and personal attacks on our Prime Minister. As for your World War remarks

Take whatever offense you want. She's still an international embarrassment. As for my WWII remarks, I didn't make any. Pay attention.

96 posted on 09/20/2001 7:05:51 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Helen Rocks!
Your worthless fleabag of a country decided that being a nuclear-free zone was more important than adhering to the terms of the ANZUS pact.

right now, you are either a friend of the US, or an enemy of the US. Make up your mind and accept the consequences of your choice.

152 posted on 09/21/2001 2:50:30 PM PDT by Poohbah
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