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Local Teens Shrug Off Terror (Lee's District...apples not far from tree)
Alemeda Times Star ^ | September 16, 2001 | Paul T. Rosynsky and Jane Rochmes

Posted on 09/17/2001 3:16:15 PM PDT by watsonfellow

Local teens shrug off terror attacks

Many say they feel little loyalty as they can't rely on government

By Paul T. Rosynsky and Jane Rochmes STAFF WRITER

OAKLAND -- While much of America is uniting to fight the evils of terrorism, many East Bay high school students said Friday a war is not theirs to wage.

As hundreds gathered on the steps of City Hall Friday to remember those lost Tuesday during the dev astating terrorist attacks in New York City and the Pentagon, high school students came together in stead to talk of weekend plans and the latest gossip.

The wave of patriotism across the country hasn't reached many area teen-agers who questioned Friday the need to retaliate and vowed not to fight if called upon for duty.

With the terrorist attacks occur ring more than 3,000 miles away, teen-agers had trouble making a connection to the tragedies and a harder time finding a reason to care.

"It didn't happen in Oakland, it could have but it didn't, so I don't feel scared or nothing," said Hieu Le, 15, a student at Castlemont High School. "Why should I go fight in a war and die for nothing."

Similar feelings were echoed throughout the blacktop courtyard of McClymonds High School and corridors of Berkeley High.

Although many said they felt sym pathy for the victims and those who had lost loved ones, when it came to risking their own lives to fight for America, most said they would try to find a way out.

"I'm not risking my life for that, I love myself too much," said Amir Kellogg, 17, as he sat with friends during lunch. "If they came after me I would have to run."

Their lack of desire to defend freedom comes, they explained, from a lack of confidence in the government to help their own communities. Many blamed the U.S. relationship with the world as reasons for the attacks and said they don't want to help because they have not received help in the past.

"How are you going to defend a nation if that nation can't defend against things like homelessness," asked Jamaal Germaine, 15, a sophomore at McClymonds High School. "I'm not in a rush to help our country because our country is already messed up."

Students instead said any war waged by the country against ter rorist states of the world would only worsen the situation, setting off an infinite series of retalia tions.

"I think the United States deserves it," said Berkeley High senior Pat rick Rizzo. "It's pretty sad for the poor people, but the United States does the same thing. We're prob ably going to do the same thing after this. We're not going to send anybody into the country, we're just going to bomb them like they did us."

Added senior Phillip Chan: "I don't think that going and attacking a specific country is going to solve anything."

And with the only exposure to war coming through television high lights of the Persian Gulf War, teen-agers said they see no need to risk human life when the country can instead depend on technology to fight evil.

"If there is a war, it won't be a war like we're used to in the past," said Antwonn Smith, 17. "We got too many missiles to use. We're not even going to have to send people out there."

Jane Senemen is news editor of the Berkeley High School Yellow Jacket.


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To: watsonfellow
These are, no doubt, the ones who derive enjoyment out of setting fire to the homeless, removing stop signs from intersections, and listen to Marilyn Manson.

When I think about these people I just remember the line from the old Phil Collins tune..."If you told me you were drowning, I would not lend a hand...." I would not save their sorry hides if they begged me. They are utterly worthless "people".

21 posted on 09/17/2001 3:32:52 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: watsonfellow
The wave of patriotism across the country hasn't reached many area teen-agers who questioned Friday the need to retaliate and vowed not to fight if called upon for duty.

WHAT THE HELL EVER. Disrespectful little punks. Any American not willing to fight for their country if called to duty should not be able to take advantage of the benefits offered by being an American.
22 posted on 09/17/2001 3:35:05 PM PDT by PeterBarringer
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To: Paul Atreides
Pace, pace, pace. Yes what these kids are cowards and misguided, but hopefully that can be corrected. Let us not be too willing to consign them to a brutal death before they have even reached 18!
23 posted on 09/17/2001 3:35:06 PM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: Mr.Clark
I'd be willing to bet a lot of these "students" aren't citizens, but foreign exchange students. The left have to make their cause larger than it really is. Of course, at that age most kids can't see past the hormone fog.

I know students at our elementary school have brought food, blankets, etc for the relief effort. They are having a patriotic sing-along this week(parents invited). Our principal sent home a memo because the kids were discussing the "greatest attack since Pearl Harbour". Red, White, and Blue day was on Friday. We also have an assembly for veterans on Veteran's Day, every year. So don't let the spin get to you. Most of them know what's at stake, ;)

24 posted on 09/17/2001 3:36:12 PM PDT by Helix
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To: jothamdorn
The war on drugs doesn't appear to have interrupted your obviously large personal supply. Why don't you try posting again when you're sober.
25 posted on 09/17/2001 3:36:36 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: watsonfellow
These little bastards are pathetic. The reason they have the right to even say these things is because people have fought, bled and died for their little ingrate @sses.

I'll bet they would fight for their Air Jordans or their future welfare checks though.

26 posted on 09/17/2001 3:37:01 PM PDT by Right Face
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To: watsonfellow
"I'm not in a rush to help our country because our country is already messed up."

I sure wish this kid would realize that only in a democratic country could they say something like this about their country without risking being arrested, tortured, jailed, or even executed.

Idiot. Then again, it is the mission of the armed forces to protect our country so stupid people can say stupid things - one of the "gifts" of democracy, I guess...

27 posted on 09/17/2001 3:37:07 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: watsonfellow
I am in total SHOCK the way ALOT OF the young man are responding across America! The liberals have done a wonderful job indoctrinating or brainwashing our youth! GOD HELP US!
28 posted on 09/17/2001 3:37:07 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: freeplancer
"Ridiculous little commies."

I never thought I'd say this, but even Communists are better than these horrid, mindless, selfish brats. Many of our Red enemies have had the courage and commitment to fight and die for their convictions, misguided though they be.

29 posted on 09/17/2001 3:37:38 PM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: watsonfellow
Sick!
30 posted on 09/17/2001 3:38:40 PM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: watsonfellow
I can now state with uneqivocal certainty that if any terrorist attack ever occurs in the Bay Area - SF, Oakland, Berkeley, anywhere in that hate-America zone - I will not be stepping in line to help. No rushing to the scene to help with disaster relief efforts. Not even donating a single dime to victims' funds, unless I can be 100% assured they will go to people that weren't consumed with anti-US hate beforehand, such as hurt police or firemen. Let them deal with it THEMSELVES. That's what socialism is all about, right?
31 posted on 09/17/2001 3:39:07 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
There are some good people (friends of mine) in Sonoma and San Rafael, perhaps I should tell them to move eh?
32 posted on 09/17/2001 3:40:57 PM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
"How are you going to defend a nation if that nation can't defend against things like homelessness,"

I...uh...err...ah, forget it. It's not worth my breath.

33 posted on 09/17/2001 3:41:47 PM PDT by SirAllen
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To: watsonfellow
Jane Senemen is news editor of the Berkeley High School Yellow Jacket.

By the way, why is a "legitimate" newspaper like the Alameda Times-Star giving over their news space to the rantings of a HIGH-SCHOOL STUDENT?

34 posted on 09/17/2001 3:41:51 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Mr.Clark
This is what happens when you have granola munching, Birkenstocked, '60's draft dodgers (who earned the PhDs and teaching certificates using their deferrment status) running the Northern California government school system. What else would you expect? These kids are a product of their upbringing.

BTW: Isn't the Oakland, California school system where "Ebonics" originated?</font size>


35 posted on 09/17/2001 3:42:02 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: watsonfellow

36 posted on 09/17/2001 3:42:16 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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These self-absorbed student losers are definitely NOT part of the next Greatest Generation.
37 posted on 09/17/2001 3:42:23 PM PDT by catonsville
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To: jwalsh07
Almost makes me want to support a draft.

Me too but with this punk's attitude, we should draft him to bin Lauden's army and he can stay there when he's done.

38 posted on 09/17/2001 3:43:01 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: watsonfellow
"... I love myself too much," said Amir Kellogg, 17..."

That's the problem out there - totally self absorbed about nothing to get excited over. Cowardly selfishness is the theme amongst out youth.

39 posted on 09/17/2001 3:43:02 PM PDT by nmh
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To: watsonfellow
So sad we are raising a bunch of brats like this.

I have 3 kids, 19, 18 and 15. All, ALL, they and all their friends are willing to fight for Freedom. I am so glad I live in the Mid-west so my kids grew up with values and morals that made this country great.

40 posted on 09/17/2001 3:43:46 PM PDT by WIMom
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