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Local Teens Shrug Off Terror (Lee's District...apples not far from tree)
Alemeda Times Star ^ | September 16, 2001 | Paul T. Rosynsky and Jane Rochmes

Posted on 09/17/2001 3:16:15 PM PDT by watsonfellow

Local teens shrug off terror attacks

Many say they feel little loyalty as they can't rely on government

By Paul T. Rosynsky and Jane Rochmes STAFF WRITER

OAKLAND -- While much of America is uniting to fight the evils of terrorism, many East Bay high school students said Friday a war is not theirs to wage.

As hundreds gathered on the steps of City Hall Friday to remember those lost Tuesday during the dev astating terrorist attacks in New York City and the Pentagon, high school students came together in stead to talk of weekend plans and the latest gossip.

The wave of patriotism across the country hasn't reached many area teen-agers who questioned Friday the need to retaliate and vowed not to fight if called upon for duty.

With the terrorist attacks occur ring more than 3,000 miles away, teen-agers had trouble making a connection to the tragedies and a harder time finding a reason to care.

"It didn't happen in Oakland, it could have but it didn't, so I don't feel scared or nothing," said Hieu Le, 15, a student at Castlemont High School. "Why should I go fight in a war and die for nothing."

Similar feelings were echoed throughout the blacktop courtyard of McClymonds High School and corridors of Berkeley High.

Although many said they felt sym pathy for the victims and those who had lost loved ones, when it came to risking their own lives to fight for America, most said they would try to find a way out.

"I'm not risking my life for that, I love myself too much," said Amir Kellogg, 17, as he sat with friends during lunch. "If they came after me I would have to run."

Their lack of desire to defend freedom comes, they explained, from a lack of confidence in the government to help their own communities. Many blamed the U.S. relationship with the world as reasons for the attacks and said they don't want to help because they have not received help in the past.

"How are you going to defend a nation if that nation can't defend against things like homelessness," asked Jamaal Germaine, 15, a sophomore at McClymonds High School. "I'm not in a rush to help our country because our country is already messed up."

Students instead said any war waged by the country against ter rorist states of the world would only worsen the situation, setting off an infinite series of retalia tions.

"I think the United States deserves it," said Berkeley High senior Pat rick Rizzo. "It's pretty sad for the poor people, but the United States does the same thing. We're prob ably going to do the same thing after this. We're not going to send anybody into the country, we're just going to bomb them like they did us."

Added senior Phillip Chan: "I don't think that going and attacking a specific country is going to solve anything."

And with the only exposure to war coming through television high lights of the Persian Gulf War, teen-agers said they see no need to risk human life when the country can instead depend on technology to fight evil.

"If there is a war, it won't be a war like we're used to in the past," said Antwonn Smith, 17. "We got too many missiles to use. We're not even going to have to send people out there."

Jane Senemen is news editor of the Berkeley High School Yellow Jacket.


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This is quite sad. These children do not realize that adults will soon die to protect the freedom and liberty which they are so flippantly willing to barter away in the name of tolerance and social justice.

How different did those of long ago respond.....

The Spires of Oxford

I saw the spires of Oxford As I was passing by, The gray spires of Oxford Against a pearl-gray sky, My heart was with the Oxford men Who went abroad to die.

The years go fast in Oxford The golden years and gay, The hoary Colleges look down On careless boys at play. But when the bugles sounded war They put their games away.

They left the peaceful river, The cricket field, the quad, The shaven lawns of Oxford To seek a bloody sod -- They gave their merry youth away For country and for God.

God rest you, happy gentlemen, Who laid your good lives down, Who took the khaki and the gun Instead of cap and gown. God bring you to a fairer place Than even Oxford town.

Winifred M. Letts

1 posted on 09/17/2001 3:16:16 PM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: watsonfellow
I hope this is a isolated incident. I was proud for my generation this weekend as most of the rallies in my town were led by young teenagers.
2 posted on 09/17/2001 3:20:52 PM PDT by Mr.Clark
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To: watsonfellow
"I think the United States deserves it," said Berkeley High senior Pat rick Rizzo.

Why doesn't the stupid kid go to Iraq and live if he hates the US so much? If he really prefers fanatic Islam to the US way, then he's certainly welcome to go live there.

3 posted on 09/17/2001 3:21:43 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: watsonfellow
I live in Kansas and my dad works at a golf course. He said that on Tuesday, to a person, those...say 50 and over were ready to sign up and take on the terrorists. Some were so distraught that though they came out and tried to golf, they ended up coming in and asking for "rain checks" because they just couldn't keep their minds on their game.

We live in a college town and sadly, these men's counterparts in the younger generation weren't really moved and seemed to have no problem whatsoever enjoying a round or two.

4 posted on 09/17/2001 3:23:06 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: watsonfellow
What are their parents teaching them anyway? Ridiculous little commies.
5 posted on 09/17/2001 3:23:13 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: FITZ
Almost makes me want to support a draft.
6 posted on 09/17/2001 3:24:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mr.Clark
My two teens, (16 & 17), shed many tears this past week. They have watched numerous hours of cable news and fortunately, do not have liberal history teachers so this was actually discussed in school with some intelligence. To tell you the truth I was surprised. Minnesota is not known as an anti-liberal hot bed. I have been very proud of them. They have both expressed sadness over the probability of war, however believe that this type of terrorist doesn't go away by ignoring him. He must be dealt with and disposed of.
7 posted on 09/17/2001 3:24:48 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: FITZ,SLB,harpseal,Squantos
Wait until they are drafted and sent to the Egyptian Front, or the house to house Battle Of Bagdad.
8 posted on 09/17/2001 3:25:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: FITZ
"I think the United States deserves it," said Berkeley High senior Pat rick Rizzo.

I wonder if he would be saying this if one of HIS family members had been killed.


9 posted on 09/17/2001 3:25:18 PM PDT by unixfox
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To: watsonfellow
when it came to risking their own lives to fight for America, most said they would try to find a way out.

The sad fact is these attacks are going to have to continue, and get worse, to WAKE UP THE IDIOTS in this country who don't understand the severe price that has to be paid for liberty. Our founding fathers didn't let someone else gain and keep freedom for them, they knew it had to be fought for themselves.

10 posted on 09/17/2001 3:25:25 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: watsonfellow
The blame for the ignorance of these students lies with the teachers & the parents. Where do you think they learned this anti-American sentiment? They should be ashamed.
11 posted on 09/17/2001 3:25:56 PM PDT by Feiny
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Jamaal Germaine, 15, a sophomore at McClymonds High School. "I'm not in a rush to help our country because our country is already messed up."

Yeah, because of commie pieces of s*** like you!

12 posted on 09/17/2001 3:26:02 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: jwalsh07
Just found this picture --


13 posted on 09/17/2001 3:26:28 PM PDT by Naspino
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To: watsonfellow
What do you expect from Oakland, next door neighbor to Berkley. Little commies the lot of them. I know, I have an Uncle in law who is a professor at Berkley, and how I despise him!!!
14 posted on 09/17/2001 3:26:52 PM PDT by Aric2000
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To: watsonfellow
"Why should I go fight in a war and die for nothing."

I guess MTV will have to go off the air and Nintendo will have to go bankrupt before this imbecile finds something worth dying for. I have no use for these little spoiled brat bastards. They can all go rot in Afghanistan as far as I'm concerned. In fact, before we send REAL Americans to die, let's just airdrop these little pissants behind the lines with rifles. Then they can either use them or die. I don't particularly care which.

15 posted on 09/17/2001 3:27:10 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: watsonfellow
If the high school students of 1941 had this view, we'd be speaking German or Japanese right now.......

Obviously, they have failed to understand that Those Who Refuse To Learn From History Are Doomed To Repeat It.

16 posted on 09/17/2001 3:29:06 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: watsonfellow
Cowardice takes many forms.
17 posted on 09/17/2001 3:30:26 PM PDT by randog
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To: watsonfellow
These kids are just slow learners. Our enemy will, I fear, make it personal enough for them all too soon. They are about to get a lesson in "life during wartime". This is different from wars previous: now we have an enemy that is bringing the war to us. Right home to main street.
18 posted on 09/17/2001 3:31:03 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: watsonfellow

"How are you going to defend a nation if that nation can't defend against things like homelessness," asked Jamaal Germaine, 15, a sophomore at McClymonds High School.

Sigh! :^(

19 posted on 09/17/2001 3:31:15 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: FITZ
The war on drugs has hit some neighborhoods harder than others. The war on drugs isn't about drugs when the police can take your car and your house and all your other stuff without having proved that you did anything "wrong". When a paid snitch puts your brother away for ten or fifteen years by perjuring himself, when the police testi-lie and the judge knows they're doing it, you might start to feel a little disaffected and might wonder when you'll get to enjoy a little of that "freedom" everyone keeps talking about.

If you can go to prison for growing the "wrong" flowers in your garden you're not free.

20 posted on 09/17/2001 3:32:22 PM PDT by jothamdorn
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