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KISS THE NOTION OF SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE GOODBYE!!!
FR | 09/15/01 | ServesURight

Posted on 09/15/2001 10:31:50 AM PDT by ServesURight

The United States of America is a Christian nation again.

The Terrorist attacks have renewed America's faith in God. There will be no more ACLU/People for the American Way lawyers screaming about politicians and government officials openly praying anymore.

There will no more lawsuits against city officials and residents who display religious symbols during Christmas. No more outrage against high-school teams praying before games, no more Supreme Court decisions.

The atheists at the ACLU were probably defecating in their pants at the site of Congress and President attending the National Cathedral, and at the site of millions of Americans holding candlelight vigils and prayer groups across the country.

I dare the Left to make "seperation of church and state" an issue now.


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To: ServesURight
This is interesting.
101 posted on 09/15/2001 11:35:07 AM PDT by Texas Gal
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To: Coyote
As always, you have hit the nail most squarely my friend.

Regards,

L

102 posted on 09/15/2001 11:37:56 AM PDT by Lurker
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To: ServesURight
Hee-hee-hee, I'm enjoying it while it lasts :) Even Jesus fished from the "RIGHT" side of the boat :)
103 posted on 09/15/2001 11:41:45 AM PDT by tinacart ((I hate hitlery!))
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To: JA
No, he's a real patriot. Take your religion outside, my friend. We are all in this together.

I take my religion with me everywhere I go. Sorry that it bothers you.

104 posted on 09/15/2001 11:43:37 AM PDT by Texican72
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To: eddie willers ja Austim ConsistentLibertarian Emmanual_Goldstein16 Cultural Jihad
See #98 for my thoughts on this thread.


105 posted on 09/15/2001 11:43:49 AM PDT by Coyote
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To: Coyote
Wouldn't it be cool if you could challenge people at the voting booth to cite a passage from the Bible and if they couldn't you could say "You're excused"?
106 posted on 09/15/2001 11:46:13 AM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Professional
Sorry to see that you can't see that evil acts of Satan, carried in a hidden veil of religion, are to blame. No religion that is worthy of God advocates murder.

As an agnostic, I believe in neither God nor Satan nor anything supernatural.
As such, I can not address to your viewpoint.

I can say, though, that many of the 'Christians' (re: Alas with his sign off: "Nukem")
seem to contradict your second sentence and thus makes it hard for me to differentite the various Abrahamic religions.

107 posted on 09/15/2001 11:47:11 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Coyote
I'd pick Proverbs Chapter 5 myself. Or maybe Chapter 6. The part about "enjoy your wife's breasts."
108 posted on 09/15/2001 11:47:20 AM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Guinastasia
BTW, many of the Founding Fathers were DEISTS, not Christian

Sorry, try again. From Founding Fathers by M.E, Bradford:

In addition, with no more than five exceptions, they were orthodox members of one of the established Christian communiions. An internal transformation of American society in the direction of a secularized egalitarian state was the furthest thing from the minds of these men. The majority of them were committedd to representative government, to the continued existence of the soveriegn states, and to the dependence upon the virtue of the people acting as independent, political, economic, and moral agents as the best security for the hope of a common future.BUT they also believed in the imperfection of human nature and had no patience with the notion that men were essentially good or that insitutions were the culprit in the darker chapters of history....They were closer to Hobbes than Rousseau.

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”--John Adams, 1798

As a matter of fact most states had established state churchs and were encouraged to do so. One of the first election laws to be ignored and eventually discarded within these United States was the one requiring men to be Christian and of good moral background.

This tragedy has begun to move this nation into a closer walk with God, uniting us again and relying not only on what we can see but our faith as well. May God indeed bless America

110 posted on 09/15/2001 11:50:06 AM PDT by billbears
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To: vmatt
"Actually, the enemy we are fighting are a perfect example of what happens when religion is blended with politics."

I agree 100% infact many christian leaders are looking just like the leaders of the talaban to me. Jerry Falwell's comments are a perfect example of this.
111 posted on 09/15/2001 11:50:19 AM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: JA
I was not forced to attend the service. I was not forced to watch it on television. I was not forced to pray to a particular God in a particular faith or domination.

I was not forced to worship in the privacy of my own home, behind drawn curtains. I was not prohibited by law for turning to my faith for comfort with countless of other citizens. I am a Presbyterian, when I saw the Reverend Billy Graham standing at the end of the aisle, I knew all would be well, not because I was forced to listen to him, because I respect him based on judgements I make.

Seems to me the separation of church and state worked perfectly yesterday. The state did not force us to worship, nort did it prevent us from worshipping with those of our choosing.

112 posted on 09/15/2001 11:51:07 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: ServesURight
The United States of America is a Christian nation again.

While a majority of Americans may have been Christian when the country was founded, the new country itself was officially acknowledged NOT to be based on Christianity by the Founding Fathers:

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion--as it has itself no character of enmity against the law, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims], ...
-- Article 11, Treaty of Peace and Friendship between The United States and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary, 1796-1797.
This treaty was negotiated during Washington's administration, concluded on November 4, 1796, ratified by the Senate in June 1797, and signed by John Adams [2nd U.S. President] on June 10, 1797.
Now be it known, that I, John Adams, President of the United States of America, having seen and considered the said treaty do, by and within the consent of the Senate, accept, ratify and confirm the same, and every clause and article thereof.

113 posted on 09/15/2001 11:51:41 AM PDT by The_Expatriate
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To: Coyote
Don't confuse my wish not to be yoked to religion with pacifism.
114 posted on 09/15/2001 11:54:15 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Don Brush
Now you said that SO well.... It should be repeated just incase anyone missed it:

If people don't want to pray, then don't pray. Just don't tell those of us that choose to that we are somehow offending you with our prayers. We have the right to pray anywhere, anytime, and in front of anyone. I am offended by a lot of behavior that others engage in, prayer is a personal freedom that hurts no one.

Beautifully said, Don!!!!!

115 posted on 09/15/2001 11:54:32 AM PDT by Bump in the night
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To: jess35
Oh wait...you mean that because schools teach evolution vs creationism...and they teach that the earth revolves around the sun, suddenly they are "atttacking" Christianity?

Don't laugh many of these people really do believe that the earth is the center of the universe and that saying otherwise is a scientific plot to attack the bible. If I had my way I would drop them off in afganistan so them and the talaban can argue it out with each other.
116 posted on 09/15/2001 11:54:53 AM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: In pursuit of truth
Can you say a little more about the causal relation between prayer and free love? That sounded _really_ interesting.
117 posted on 09/15/2001 11:55:36 AM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: In pursuit of truth
Has the ACLU set up shop at Freerepublic?

No, but if have to choose between the ACLU and Jerry Falwell blaming the attack on pagans, liberals, gays last month's Little Leaugue Basebll scandle I will pick the ACLU every time.

118 posted on 09/15/2001 11:56:14 AM PDT by Austim
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To: ServesURight
It is no coincidence that the rise of the smothering, instrusive state--along with socialism--has coincided with the with the rise of God-hating athiestic humanism along with its unholy troika of pornography, abortion, and gay rights.

Give me the free and strong America of my grandfathers, when public expressions of religious faith were not mocked and held in derision.

119 posted on 09/15/2001 11:56:42 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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