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Is Jerry Falwell America's Taliban?
9-14-2001 | brianbaldwin@hotmail.com

Posted on 09/14/2001 11:54:59 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin

Is Jerry Falwell America's Taliban?

I do not know a lot about Jerry Falwell since I am not interested in his religion. Of course, I am familiar with him as a media icon of sorts, and have seen him on television giving commentary on current events as a guest of news talk programs on the networks, such as MSNBC or FOX. Even though I do not necessarily agree with some of the viewpoints which I have heard him express, and since I have no interest in his religion there is sometimes a disconnection between reality as I see it and his religious viewpoint as to why things happen in this world, nevertheless I have admired some of his works and was positive about what I would call a bravery in his personality, a motif of bravery in his openness about his convictions. I want to again clarify, that I am not familiar with everything Reverend Falwell has said either in the past or present since I do not regularly listen to him and certainly do not count myself as one of his enthusiasts.

Of the little that I am familiar of him, my positive feelings about him have now changed due to a recent comment he has made, and I have to seriously ask whether he might be a nut or something, and I don't mean to call him a nut as an insult but rather question if he might have mental problems. Current events, as related to the recent terrorist attack by what appears to be the Osama Bin Laden network of Islamic terrorist fanatics and the religious nut-case government of the Taliban in Afghanistan all converged with this rather odd person's statement, the statement by this Falwell to the effect that America got what it deserved in the form of God's wrath as manifest in this terrorist attack, God's punishment on America because there are too many lesbians, homosexuals, and abortions in America.

Again, Reverend Falwell said in so many words is that civil liberties groups, homosexuals and abortion supporters are partially responsibility for the terrorist attacks which turned God's anger against America, and that what happened to the people in New York, (including one of my own) is "what we deserve".

hmmmm . . . Sounds like Jerry's god agrees with the same god those suicidal sammies who just murdered our people in N.Y. worship. In fact it sounds like Jerry's god and their god is the same god. Because, well, what he is saying is, and it really doesn't matter now if he denies that he is saying this because if what I have just quoted is accurate then he is in fact saying that his God, whoever that is, blew up the WTC because that is what we deserve because there are too many ACLU types and homos running around in America, abortion, etc..

Excuse me, but isn't that what he said? . . . and so, excuse me, but this man is a lunatic and please don't let him or his god anywhere near my house because I have children I have to protect from mentals.

Accounting for what I understand he said, then what this man is, is America's Taliban. Please do not let this man have any political say or power in this nation, because we don't need this kind of Taliban voodoo at any level of power or government in the good ol' USA because such a man if put in any position of leadership would be a menace to world stability and a possible inspiration for followers of this type of cultism to potentially engage in terrorism. It also worries me, and I have to ask, does President Bush have anything to do with this apparent mental case?

Now, as anyone who knows me will tell you, I am no friend of abortionists, and though I have some friends who are homosexual it is a fact that when it comes to political opinnion regarding some of the homosexual agenda the gays and lesbians radicals probably consider me Public Enemy Numer One as they do of Falwell, but . . . I have no doubt, considering the statement of Falwell, that if his type of cultism took over the country, while the Afghan Taliban is aggressive towards it's 'enemies' and the Falwell Taliban would likely not be engaged in systematic aggressive attacks on others - though even this could be possible - there is little doubt that the Falwell Taliban would indeed be a Taliban of sorts in America, and the end of liberty sacrificed to kookiness and live-choking oppression and terror.

There is a lot to admire about President Bush, especially in light of his handling of this recent act of war upon the United States. I hope the President or his Administration has made some comment regarding this scary and frankly lunatic statement by the Falwell preacher, denouncing it as it should. I am concerned that it appears this man might have some following, also the kookiness of his position is disconcerting because it is rather reminiscent of a few, very few but scary, Christians who call themselves supporters of Bush because they think, and quite frankly from the way they act seem to worship, Bush as some sort of Christian President of a status of infallibility - that is it would not matter what Bush did even if he started throwing baby kittens to their death out of Air Force One, it's all justified because he is Pope President of sorts, the infallible anointed President of The New Jerusalem, amen. Somebody better tell Bush, because I don't think he considers himself as such even though it appears some do.

My greatest respect goes to Christians, whom I love. In fact, one of my concerns is how Christians are being turned into the next Jews for the gas chambers by the liberal fascists. Secularism in government is very important, however, so I suppose that Mr. Falwell is eagerly expecting a terrorist truck bomb to slam into the front door of my house, the punishment vented by his god upon me for which I so richly deserve. Who knows, considering our current state of national security and intelligence operations this even might very well take place, but it certainly has nothing to do with God's vengeance upon me.


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To: the808bass
And the NBA is ...? Nautical Bouys Area? ;)
101 posted on 09/15/2001 2:14:11 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Dataman
Good observation, #13.

You are a smart fellow. ;)

102 posted on 09/15/2001 2:15:38 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: the808bass
Jason Williams....
103 posted on 09/15/2001 2:16:20 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Brian_Baldwin
In a very emotional time as the one we are living right now, everybody should be very careful on what they say. That goes from TV anchormen (see the disgracing example of ABC's Peter Jennings), to politicians (see the double disgracing example of Rep. Meehan) to Freepers.

Falwell, speaks from his point of view. Of course, what he says would be more credible if he wasn't so incredible as a Christian. However, for those who believe in God, what Falwell said is true, so, heed the message and not the messanger.

People need words of confort, and that is understandable. However, and at the same time, the root causes of the malaise MUST be addressed, otherwise, what has happened will be only the beginning of an increasing spiral, and then there will be no more confort to be given.

For a more coherent exposition of what was meant, please follow the following link:

www.apocalypsesoon.org/america.html

104 posted on 09/15/2001 2:17:17 AM PDT by PietroA
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To: Brian_Baldwin
I do not know a lot about Jerry Falwell...

You're right, you don't. So shut up and quit twisting the man's words.

105 posted on 09/15/2001 2:17:36 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Cultural Jihad
White Chocolate was a Gator.
106 posted on 09/15/2001 2:19:06 AM PDT by the808bass
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To: goodieD
Congrats goodie, You won the dumbest post of the day.
107 posted on 09/15/2001 3:38:45 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Cultural Jihad
Oh no challenging goodie for the 2nd dumbest post of the day...
108 posted on 09/15/2001 3:44:37 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: PietroA
"However, for those who believe in God, what Falwell said is true, so, heed the message and not the messanger"

Speak for yourself not for others with a brain you dork.

109 posted on 09/15/2001 3:47:55 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Cultural Jihad
Not even NAMBLA came out and said we caused the WTC to be attacked, killing many thousands. NAMBLA is the bogeyman that idiots such as yourself pull out from time to time because you can't stay on topic. From your statement I'll have to assume that you agree with Falwell and Robertson's statements. This makes you as ignorant and evil as them.
110 posted on 09/15/2001 4:43:33 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
It is sound Christian doctrine that the presense of unneeded suffering in the world is caused by one thing, and one thing alone: sin. War, famine, drought, flood, pestilence, disease, all are caused by sin. But we are not able to judge individual human souls. That is the prerogative of God alone. A pregnant mother who was crushed in the WTC suffered and died because of sin, but not necessarity because of HER sin. She may have suffered and died for the sins of someone else. Perhaps for my sins, perhaps for yours, perhaps for the sins of the terrorists, perhaps for the sins of Bill Clinton and Barbara Boxer. Immorality brings unneeded suffering and death. Sure, we can pinpoint some individual instances, and perhaps deduce whose sin is being punished. A man who consents to step out of an airplane without a parachute: he may not suffer and die right away, but certainly down the road because of his action.

All I do is describe Reality. Anyone is free to disagree with Reality if they want to.

111 posted on 09/15/2001 9:25:56 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Greg Weston
You people are pretty funny, can't say anything reasonable so you call names. I did nothing but speak the truth, and if you liberal lovers out there can't handle it, go back to Democratic Underground where you belong. I, for one, will continue to stand up for morality and conservative thought.
112 posted on 09/15/2001 9:28:02 AM PDT by goodieD
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To: wayne_shrugged
Does Jerry Falwell control our or anyone else's government?

Exactly! In America we have freedom of religion, not enforcement of religion. You, I and Jerry Falwell each have a right to say and believe anything we like. This thread is dumb!

113 posted on 09/15/2001 9:35:05 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: danzaroni
No, that is not what the Moslems are saying. And I think you know it.
114 posted on 09/15/2001 9:40:54 AM PDT by marxwas a loser
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To: OWK
It would seem to me that Falwell does not speak for Christians. In fact I think he served primarily to embarrass Christians with his words of this day.

He speaks for anyone who chooses to agree with him. That is what America is all about - freedom. We have a 1st amendment in this country. Christianity is not a state religion, therefore no one has to agree with Falwell who doesn't want to. Furthermore, Falwell is not obligated to speak for anyone but himself.

115 posted on 09/15/2001 9:41:24 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: Brian_Baldwin
I think you have more of a case if you were talking about a liberal scum, not a GOD fearing american.
116 posted on 09/15/2001 9:43:18 AM PDT by marxwas a loser
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To: Brian_Baldwin
BTW...have you ever said anything stupid?

I mean besides the above post.

117 posted on 09/15/2001 9:44:41 AM PDT by marxwas a loser
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To: sakic
NAMBLA is the bogeyman...

We note that it was you who said this evil organization, whose newspapers are sold in the gay bookstores and whose members parade in the yearly perversion parades, does not exist.

118 posted on 09/15/2001 9:45:13 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
It is sound Christian doctrine that the presense of unneeded suffering in the world is caused by one thing, and one thing alone: sin.

Really? Where?

There's no doctrine in Roman Catholicism that teaches that.

She may have suffered and died for the sins of someone else.

This is vile. Jesus Himself condemned the Jews for their belief in the son suffering for the father's sin.

Where are you coming up with this stuff?

I'm reading lots of so-called "Christian" blather on this site this week that is just being made up.

Methinks the Christians who are making it up are self-righteous prigs, who want to blame certain segments of American society for what happened.

This is not even close to Old Testament theology.

What kind of God do you believe in who would allow you to take some kind of smug satisfaction that YOU "aren't like THOSE people!"

At least Falwell knew when to apologize and shut his mouth.

119 posted on 09/15/2001 9:46:21 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Brian_Baldwin
This post is ridiculous. Falwell, nor any other fundamentalist Christian that obeys God's Word, is not calling for retribution- he's calling for repentance. The Taliban are murdering thugs. To compare the two is the height of idiocy.
120 posted on 09/15/2001 9:49:18 AM PDT by DittoJed2
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