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William Cohen just spoke on CNN via telephone and said some scary things
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Posted on 09/11/2001 12:13:20 PM PDT by libertarian_usa

I can roughly quote William Cohen from his live interview on CNN within the last 10 minutes: "We are going to have to make some tough decisions in this country. We are going to have to "garbled" when making choices between security and civil liberties."


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To: higgmeister
Your kind of thinking is getting Jews beaten up in this country because they "look like Arabs." Your kind of thinking discounts the fact that many Muslims are Americans, born and raised here, and are JUST as horrified as you and I are at this act. Your kind of thinking is unAmerican, and yes, bigotted ... deny it all you want, it doesn't matter. It's the same kind of thinking that put Americans of Japanese descent, many generations American, into "internment" camps in this country. And not too distant from the kind of thinking that put Jews into Concentration camps in another. Beware painting all of any group with the same broad brush -- you always get some of the paint on yourself.
221 posted on 09/14/2001 8:51:03 PM PDT by MightyMouth
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To: Yehuda
Numbers 21:2 Numbers 21 Numbers 21:1-3 And Israel vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou wilt indeed deliver this people into my hand, then I will utterly destroy their cities.

Numbers 31:17 Numbers 31 Numbers 31:16-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

Numbers 33:52 Numbers 33 Numbers 33:51-53 Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places:

Deuteronomy 2:34 Deuteronomy 2 Deuteronomy 2:33-35 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:

Deuteronomy 3:6 Deuteronomy 3 Deuteronomy 3:5-7 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.

Deuteronomy 7:5 Deuteronomy 7 Deuteronomy 7:4-6 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down

their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. Deuteronomy 7:24 Deuteronomy 7 Deuteronomy 7:23-25 And he shall deliver their kings into thine hand, and thou shalt destroy their name from under heaven: there shall no man be able to stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them.

Deuteronomy 13:9 Deuteronomy 13 Deuteronomy 13:8-10 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

Deuteronomy 13:15 Deuteronomy 13 Deuteronomy 13:14-16 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

Joshua 6:21 Joshua 6 Joshua 6:20-22 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

Joshua 9:24 Joshua 9 Joshua 9:23-25 And they answered Joshua, and said, Because it was certainly told thy servants, how that the LORD thy God commanded his servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you, therefore we were sore afraid of our lives because of you, and have done this thing.

Joshua 10:28 Joshua 10 Joshua 10:27-29 And that day Joshua took Makkedah, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof he utterly destroyed, them, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain: and he did to the king of Makkedah as he did unto the king of Jericho.

Joshua 10:35 Joshua 10 Joshua 10:34-36 And they took it on that day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein he utterly destroyed that day, according to all that he had done to Lachish.

Joshua 10:37 Joshua 10 Joshua 10:36-38 And they took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof, and all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining, according to all that he had done to Eglon; but destroyed it utterly, and all the souls that were therein.

Joshua 10:39 Joshua 10 Joshua 10:38-40 And he took it, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof; and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining: as he had done to Hebron, so he did to Debir, and to the king thereof; as he had done also to Libnah, and to her king.

Joshua 10:40 Joshua 10 Joshua 10:39-41 So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded.

Joshua 11:11 Joshua 11 Joshua 11:10-12 And they smote all the souls that were therein with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying them: there was not any left to breathe: and he burnt Hazor with fire.

Joshua 11:12 Joshua 11 Joshua 11:11-13 And all the cities of those kings, and all the kings of them, did Joshua take, and smote them with the edge of the sword, and he utterly destroyed them, as Moses the servant of the LORD commanded.

Joshua 11:14 Joshua 11 Joshua 11:13-15 And all the spoil of these cities, and the cattle, the children of Israel took for a prey unto themselves; but every man they smote with the edge of the sword, until they had destroyed them, neither left they any to breathe.

Joshua 11:20 Joshua 11 Joshua 11:19-21 For it was of the LORD to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly, and that they might have no favour, but that he might destroy them, as the LORD commanded Moses.

Joshua 11:21 Joshua 11 Joshua 11:20-22 And at that time came Joshua, and cut off the Anakims from the mountains, from Hebron, from Debir, from Anab, and from all the mountains of Judah, and from all the mountains of Israel: Joshua destroyed them utterly with their cities.

Judges 1:17 Judges 1 Judges 1:16-18 And Judah went with Simeon his brother, and they slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it. And the name of the city was called Hormah.

Judges 4:24 Judges 4 Judges 4:23-25 And the hand of the children of Israel prospered, and prevailed against Jabin the king of Canaan, until they had destroyed Jabin king of Canaan.

1 Samuel 15:18 1 Samuel 15 1 Samuel 15:17-19 And the LORD sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed.

1 Samuel 15:20 1 Samuel 15 1 Samuel 15:19-21 And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the LORD, and have gone the way which the LORD sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites.

Plenty more where these came from ... gets worse, too. Lotta killing in there because the "others" are nonbelievers, or have something the "believers" want. How is that different?

222 posted on 09/14/2001 9:20:08 PM PDT by MightyMouth
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To: libertarian_usa
I think he is talking about mandatory background checks for Airport and Airline employees, random bag checks at airports and careful screening of visitors to the US. All of which, I agree with.
224 posted on 09/15/2001 11:24:34 PM PDT by Untouchable
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To: MightyMouth
Your kind of thinking is getting Jews beaten up in this country because they "look like Arabs." Your kind of
thinking discounts the fact that many Muslims are Americans, born and raised here, and are JUST as horrified
as you and I are at this act. Your kind of thinking is unAmerican, and yes, bigotted ... deny it all you want,
it doesn't matter. It's the same kind of thinking that put Americans of Japanese descent, many generations
American, into "internment" camps in this country. And not too distant from the kind of thinking that put
Jews into Concentration camps in another. Beware painting all of any group with the same broad brush --
you always get some of the paint on yourself.

Your paragraph is trash!  I never said a thing about
harming persons on the streets in our country!
I am bigoted against murderers!  I am bigoted
against a religion that calls for killing in any circumstance!
That is not un-American!  My brush is not broad at all.
I am against a religion killing!   Having said that, I will
now say again, I am not against my government killing
in some of the States that have condoned and that
applaud this murder of our citizens in the name of
their religion!  I want Nuclear strikes to the Radical
Islamic countries that have been known to contribute
to terrorism!  Nothing else will send the message
that we will not tolerate even one more act against
anyone in the world!

225 posted on 09/16/2001 1:00:36 AM PDT by higgmeister
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To: Yehuda
You want to defend islam, be my guest. Don't count on being on their “friendly” list - convert or die - they
are doing it all over the world, from Malaysia, the Philippines, Balkans, Lebanon, Sudan, Israel, and now
....ta-dah...NY. If we  would only accommodate them, I am sure they won't bother us... Trust me, they
are not into your 2nd amendment rights, either.

You're right,  the mouth would die just like the rest of us if the muslim could do it with impunity.

226 posted on 09/16/2001 1:16:07 AM PDT by higgmeister
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To: libertarian_usa
In the past few days I've heard Every Network Anchor, major and minor, with the possible exceptions of Tony Snow and Brit Hume, repeatedly calling, almost begging, for numerous new restrictions on our civil liberties in the name of imagined increases in security.

It's been one of the best examples I've ever seen of the truly cowardly and patheticly ignorant state of our main-stream press.

228 posted on 09/16/2001 10:15:37 PM PDT by Nova
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To: libertarian_usa
cohen is a world communist and can kiss my ass.
229 posted on 09/16/2001 10:16:53 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: To everybody
Speaking from a social conservative point of view. I don't feel so especially driven to help those people in NYC. They are all a bunch of god forsaken liberals. What I feel bad about is they attacked America but I'm glad they did not pick on Texas, or some other conservative state.
230 posted on 09/16/2001 10:21:34 PM PDT by PooperScooper (Piaf@m33access.com)
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To: Yehuda
"Take heed, watch; for you do not know when the time will come. It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to be on the watch. Watch therefore- for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening, or at midnight, or at the cockcrow, or in the morning- lest he come suddenly and find you asleep. And what I say to you I say to all: Watch." (Mark, chp.13; vs.33-37)
231 posted on 09/16/2001 10:26:47 PM PDT by Aztech
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To: PooperScooper
Speaking from a social conservative point of view. I don't feel so especially driven to help those people in NYC. They are all a bunch of god forsaken liberals. What I feel bad about is they attacked America but I'm glad they did not pick on Texas, or some other conservative state.

WHAT!!!!! Are you serious about what you just said - not especially driven to help those in NYC??? How about if most of those people in the financial Center are REPUBLICANS that voted for BUSH!!!! Their Governor and Mayor are Republicans.

I can't believe I'm hearing these words from an American about another American (only Hillary is the exception)

232 posted on 09/16/2001 10:30:01 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: libertarian_usa
"...making choices between security and civil liberties."

I've sure been hearing that quote a lot lately, especially from RINOs and liberals, but I don't think it's going to be the choice of the Founding Fathers.

That's a lot scarier than Osama bin Laden.

233 posted on 09/16/2001 10:40:09 PM PDT by surferUSA
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To: MightyMouth
Does anyone know when the airlines were forced to remove the guns from the cockpits? I think it was around 1974, but am just not sure. I'm hearing that these terrorists took over these planes with knives and box cutters.

I heard someone say the clean up crews (who clean the airplanes after flights) could plant weapons on an airplane.I'm not sure how what the procedure is with these kinds of things at airports. Wonder if that could be possible?

234 posted on 09/16/2001 10:57:32 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: MightyMouth
The media, being the propaganda machine it is, will continue to give us unhealthy daily doses of "what is good for the country and our security". And many will continue to be brainwashed into oblivion by it. This terrorist coverage will be broadcast night and day for weeks on end while other important issues remain hidden in the shadows. Thank God for the internet.
235 posted on 09/16/2001 11:16:19 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: MightyMouth
I hate to step on someone's sacred cow, but the Israelites were racists...pure and simple. Some people would like to explain that away, but in all honesty, they can't.
236 posted on 09/16/2001 11:34:06 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: ALL
>>We are going to have to "garbled" when making choices between security and civil liberties." << I'm convinced the "garbled" occurred because Cohen has his head up his ass.
237 posted on 09/17/2001 12:47:39 AM PDT by jrewingjr
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To: Yehuda
Right On :)

And there are a few remaining conservative gun-owners in California, too. Not many, but a few.

239 posted on 09/17/2001 12:19:46 PM PDT by surferUSA
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To: surferUSA
I'm sorry for me to maintain my anger I have to think of it as an attack on America. For years I would pray for New York and California to fall off the continent and sink in the Atlantic and Pacific. Any time I traveled through New York I never experienced such rudeness and lack of willingness of the transportation workers to even do their job I left thinking of them as a bunch of lazy nasty liberals. A Terrorist attack on a building in that city doesn't change my opinion of it's residents. I feel for them though as I wouldn't do to a rat what Bin Laden did to them. And they are in my prayers reluctantly.
240 posted on 09/18/2001 1:53:35 PM PDT by PooperScooper
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