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Krunching Klamath . . . A Numbers Game in Progress
Phil V. ^ | September 9, 2001 | Phil V.

Posted on 09/09/2001 1:55:03 PM PDT by Phil V.

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To: farmfriend
Klamath Basin Crisis bump list forming
21 posted on 09/09/2001 2:22:30 PM PDT by farmfriend
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To: MadameAxe Bob Todd nunya bidness Helix

22 posted on 09/09/2001 2:26:11 PM PDT by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend, Phil V.
Farmfriend, thanks for the ping and, Phil V, thanks for all your valuable research. It never fails to surprise and delight me that we have such a wealth of knowledge on FR!
23 posted on 09/09/2001 2:29:06 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: marsh2 & all
Trinity is at about 600cfs and all other tributaries total less than 200.I called fishing promoter in Klamath and he said the water is much, much higher than in June and July.Phil and I thought perhaps guage was bad but I called to hear what eyewitnesses said. And all the responses said water is higher and fishing great. Ed Hubel
24 posted on 09/09/2001 2:35:32 PM PDT by hubel458 (gunowner@journey.com)
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To: Phil V.
The Klamath's flow at its mouth could be importantly affected by releases from Lake Claire Engel on the Trinity.

The Trinity joins the Klamath about forty miles from its mouth, as it enters the Hoopa Valley Indian Reservation.

25 posted on 09/09/2001 2:35:37 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Phil V. hubel458 farmfriend
good work. information is power.

stand tall.

26 posted on 09/09/2001 2:42:28 PM PDT by glock rocks (fmcdh)
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To: Phil V.
BTT Thanks for the post
27 posted on 09/09/2001 2:47:19 PM PDT by Neets
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To: farmfriend, Issaquahking
BTT thanks for the ping
28 posted on 09/09/2001 2:48:03 PM PDT by Neets
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To: marsh2
Trinity flows are going around 600 (mostly around 610) - 700 cfs.

The Shasta is running at about 22 cfs.

29 posted on 09/09/2001 2:49:48 PM PDT by Phil V.
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To: To All
If you think what is happening in Klamath won't happen where you live read these stories that shotabug found.

San Diego County's historic 1997 deal to buy water from farmers in Imperial Valley is in danger of collapsing under the weight of environmental challenges, especially those tied to the Salton Sea, California's largest lake.

A congressional bill that would help save San Diego County's historic water-transfer deal with the Imperial Irrigation District itself appears to be in jeopardy.

PLEASE SIGN All FOUR OF THESE PETITIONS
All 4 petitions ARE IMPORTANT! Tell your family, friends, neighbors, co-workers etc about all 4.

Let the Irrigation Water Flow in the Klamath Basin of Oregon

Kill the Endangered Species Act-Firefighters have died to protect fish. Abolish the ESA!

Stop Illegal Land Grabs Petition

Sign this PETITION for the U.S. to get out of the U.N.
As we all know by now a lot of the Green Nazi stuff comes from the U.N.
30 posted on 09/09/2001 2:56:22 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Yes, yatch should be yacht!,LOL)
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To: okie01
The only extra releases on the Trinity above the 600 it has been running and is running now; was a thousand cfs released from Engel lake for a week over the labor holiday to raise levels a little for Indian River Dance Ceremonies in Hoopa Valley.Confirmed by phone.Most out flow of that lake goes south over the hill to the Sacremento River and Southern Cal.People on Trinity upset about that ;sure gave me an earful.Ed Hubel
31 posted on 09/09/2001 2:59:36 PM PDT by hubel458 (gunowner@journey.com)
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To: WHERE IS IT? SIGN THE PETITIONS SO WE CAN SEE IT. THANK YOU
Revolution
Against
Green
Extremism


KLAMATH WATER PETITION (click here)
STOP ILLEGAL LAND GRAB PETITION (click here)
END UNITED NATIONS TYRANNY IN THE U. S.(click here)
PEOPLE FIRST! DEFUND THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT PETITION (click here)
32 posted on 09/09/2001 3:00:53 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: okie01
The Trinity and Claire Engel Lake are an interesting study. There was one brief two day slug (1610 and 1270 cfs)discharge into the Klamath on the 28th and 29th of August. Flows returned to normal releases after the Native American fish festival.

Claire Engel for the most part sends it's water east to generate Kw's and irrigation and then to a delta transfer to points south.. . .LA & SD

33 posted on 09/09/2001 3:01:15 PM PDT by Phil V.
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To: farmfriend
Thanks for the heads up! Interesting info.
34 posted on 09/09/2001 3:18:12 PM PDT by Helix
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To: farmfriend
Bump for the cruncher.

Thanks farmfriend, being on the ping list is really helpful in keeping up.

35 posted on 09/09/2001 3:30:20 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Phil V.
Phil-When does the salmon run start out there.I see the charts they have some huge flows(50,000 cfs & up) in winter.Is that from heavy rains on ocean side of Mtn range.Ed Hubel
36 posted on 09/09/2001 3:34:54 PM PDT by hubel458 (gunowner@journey.com)
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To: Phil V.
Excellent Phil V., good job!!!
37 posted on 09/09/2001 3:35:57 PM PDT by blackie
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To: mfulstone
I live in the southeast and a friend of mine just told me that her new neighbor is flying a U.N. flag outside their home!
38 posted on 09/09/2001 3:39:18 PM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: farmfriend
Thanks for the heads-up, farmfriend.

PhilV., thank you for your up date report and the enomous task you have taken on, to expose just what is happening to the WATER!!!

39 posted on 09/09/2001 3:41:36 PM PDT by shotabug
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To: Phil V.
I kind of figured you were dug in with all those graphs, etc. We missed you PhilV....Hey,speaking of missing.... I saw some road kill on the way to Klamath...do you think.....?
40 posted on 09/09/2001 3:45:33 PM PDT by AuntB
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