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US Has Heavily Researched Anti-Gravity, Book Says
Reuters ^ | Friday September 7 12:15 PM ET | By Bradley Perrett

Posted on 09/08/2001 1:05:48 PM PDT by Paul_E_Ester

By Bradley Perrett

LONDON (Reuters) - The U.S. military may have conducted serious research into anti-gravity based on Nazi studies, a top defense journalist suggests in a new book.

In ``The Hunt for Zero Point,'' journalist Nick Cook says, based on a decade's research, he believes by the 1950s the U.S. was seriously working on anti-gravity ``electrogravitics'' technology, which would lift and propel vehicles without wings or thrust.

``I feel intuitively that some vehicle has been developed, particularly given that there is this wealth of scientific data out there, and the Americans have never been slow to pick up on this sort of science,'' Cook, the aerospace consultant for Jane's Defense Weekly, told Reuters in an interview.

Cook uncovered reports and sightings of a Nazi research device that had been hidden in a remote part of Poland, where it had apparently been supplied with great quantities of electricity -- which an electrogravitic experiment would require.

Curiously, barely a hint of such Nazi research appeared after the war, suggesting that whoever captured it -- probably the United States -- immediately stamped it ``secret,'' he said.

Cook noted that, as a respected expert, he is risking his reputation by writing seriously about a technology associated with UFOs, which most scientists dismiss as science fiction embraced by ``hocus-pocus'' believers.

The United States is known to have a huge budget for so called ``black projects,'' because it spends more on defense than can be accounted for by adding up the value of public programs.

Cook admitted he cannot produce a conclusive case. But that is the nature of black projects, in which even the workers usually have no idea what they are working on.

In 1947, amid the early craze of UFO reports, an air force general reported on the possibility of the United States building disc-shaped objects with extreme rates of climb and maneuverability but without noise or evident propulsion.

In the mid 1950s electrogravitics was the subject of a few press reports, including one that described work by most of the United States' major defense contractors, Cook reported.

And then it all went quiet -- just as stealth technology suddenly disappeared from view in the mid 1970s, only to re-emerge as operational aircraft in the late 1980s.

Academic papers on the subject have mysteriously disappeared from libraries.

There is still no firm evidence that electrogravitics is more than science fiction. Civilian scientists and amateurs have experimented with it, and while some have reported success, no one seems to have reproduced their results to prove that it works.


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To: Silly
LOL, I love reading your posts.
41 posted on 09/08/2001 9:02:59 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Physicist
"Einstein did. It's the curvature of spacetime."

And to think I always was under the impression that it's the spaceature of curvetime.

Dang.

42 posted on 09/08/2001 9:04:32 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: jimmyBEEgood, null and void, gunsofbrixton
Congratulations on being politically correct. You don't need gravity to suck!
43 posted on 09/08/2001 9:10:17 PM PDT by malarski
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To: Paul_E_Ester
Where the hell were these people when I needed to get snow off my roof?
44 posted on 09/08/2001 9:12:31 PM PDT by Hillary 666
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To: cmsgop
You mean this?

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45 posted on 09/08/2001 9:12:48 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Physicist
32 - "has anyone even figured out what gravity is? Einstein did. It's the curvature of spacetime. "

I guess he didn't tell anybody else. I'm smart, but no Einstein. What does what you said mean?

46 posted on 09/08/2001 9:21:54 PM PDT by XBob
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To: XBob
has anyone even figured out what gravity is?

Bingo. Science has no explanation for electricity, magnetism, and gravity. It can predict their occurrences and measure them, but has no way of explaining what exactly they are.

47 posted on 09/08/2001 9:29:23 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
thanks, that's what I thought
48 posted on 09/08/2001 9:36:37 PM PDT by XBob
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To: RightOnline
Thanks Buddy.....Did Ya Like It?????
49 posted on 09/08/2001 9:38:55 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: XBob
Anything with mass deforms the local space/time. In effect, we aren't stuck to the planet because of some kind of graviton. We are in fact slidding down a slope created by the gravity of the center of the earth.

Or some such BS.

Now ask him where the highest point of gravity would be. You'd think that it would be in the opposite direction of gravitational pull, ie; away from the earth, starting at the center of the earth. So theoreticly, you'd weigh a lot more standing two inches from the earths core even though there isn't enough mass between you and the core to make a difference.

However, if there is a graviton type particle/wave/wavelet, the focus of said particle would originate at the focal point ie; the center. The effect would propagate like all other observed forms of radiation with the effect thinning out over distance from origin.

Podkletnov and others are working on this as we speak.

51 posted on 09/08/2001 9:43:30 PM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: Paul_E_Ester Physicist
I don't think "antigravity" research would be productive. Note however that there is evidence for the acceleration of the expansion of the universe. This is theorized to be caused by a property known as quintessence. It has properties similar to what antigravity would exhibit. Further discussion of this phenomenon can be seen at the April 7, 2001 edition of Science News and at Physical Review Focus, 2/24/2000. Many other sources are available by searching "universe acceleration".
52 posted on 09/08/2001 9:43:43 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: Cultural Jihad
Wrong oh Mighty Brain-bot. Electricity and Magnetism are well known.

They are working on gravity. Give 'em some time.

Jeez, you don't think the world is flat do you?

53 posted on 09/08/2001 9:45:03 PM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: XBob
I guess he didn't tell anybody else.

Actually, Einstein published his theory of Gravitation. That's what his "General Theory of Relativity" is about.

54 posted on 09/08/2001 9:52:07 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: Cultural Jihad
Science has no explanation for electricity, magnetism, and gravity. It can predict their occurrences and measure them, but has no way of explaining what exactly they are.

In science, things are exactly what can be measured/determined about them. For example, an electron is a particle with certain mass, charge, spin, and quantization potential properties belonging to a class of particles known as leptons. That is exactly what "they are." To ask for more goes into the realm of philosophy and metaphysics. The latter realm is generally unproductive and unreliable, imho.

55 posted on 09/08/2001 9:52:16 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: Paul_E_Ester
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/science/dean.html
56 posted on 09/08/2001 9:52:39 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Dead Corpse
Electricity and Magnetism are well known.

Their effects are well known. Exactly what they ARE is matter of considerable conjecture and disagreement.

If you knew even half of what you think you know, I'd still give my cat 3-1 odds in a game of "stump the dummy" in a head-to-head match.

57 posted on 09/08/2001 9:52:58 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Faraday
In science, things are exactly what can be measured/determined about them.

What is blue? No, not the wavelength. The color itself. Exactly what is it?

Go ahead and fiddle with your sliderule, Poindexter. Take all the time you need.

58 posted on 09/08/2001 9:55:07 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Paul_E_Ester
In one of the Berlitz rags he talks about something called the Biefeld Brown effect, where a strongly charged dipole has a force towards one of the poles, I forget which. This led me to do some research, I at least found out that Thomas Townsend Brown was a highly respected guy who had traveled the world doing surveys on the gravitational field and variations. Since the electric field and the magnetic field are at right angles, a very small gravitational effect, at right angles to the other two, might make sense. It was rumored that some levitation devices were constructed, but the static sharges needed were in the hundreds of thousands of volts range. Make yur hair stand on end, if not fall out completely.
59 posted on 09/08/2001 10:06:18 PM PDT by djf
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To: Kevin Curry
What is blue? No, not the wavelength. The color itself. Exactly what is it?

This question is probably more usefully directed to an expert in human perception, which I am not. But I'll take a crude stab at it, since it arises from the physical world. Blue is name people give to a mental image which we would assign to a category known as color. It arises from the interaction of an photon of a limited range of frequencies with the eye as processed by the brain.

Things can exist as independent entities (matter and energy), as our perceptions, or as pure theoretical constructs. Science uses all three categories, but focuses on what can be known about the first.

While were at it, Bruce, perhaps you could tell me what "number" is. Is it similar to an electron? or "blue"?

60 posted on 09/08/2001 10:12:33 PM PDT by Faraday
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