Posted on 11/13/2025 10:10:46 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
Allies of Keir Starmer warned Labour plotters last night they could trigger a general election if they oust him.
As rumours of a leadership challenge swirled at Westminster, friends of the beleaguered Prime Minister claimed any new leader would 'need their own mandate' from the voters.
The warning followed a chaotic day in which a Downing Street bid to 'kneecap' potential rival Wes Streeting backfired disastrously.
With Labour currently averaging less than 20 per cent in the polls, an election now could see hundreds of MPs lose their seats.
Although there is no legal requirement for a new PM to hold a new ballot, one source said: 'In the modern age, you need your own mandate. We saw under the Tories – and even with Gordon [Brown] – that the public hate the idea that political parties can stitch up the choice of a new PM without them.
'Anyone thinking of moving against Keir should consider that very carefully.'
Kemi Badenoch said the Government had 'descended into civil war' while Reform UK leader Nigel Farage last night told the Daily Mail: 'This is a government that is all at sea, without a rudder.
'The sooner we have an election, the better it will be for the country. Not that I'm holding my breath.'
Sir Keir was urged to sack his controversial chief of staff Morgan McSweeney, who was blamed by many for a series of toxic overnight briefings which accused Mr Streeting of plotting a coup and branded Labour MPs 'feral'.
One friend of Mr McSweeney acknowledged he was '100 per cent behind' the briefing, adding: 'He's toast'.
Mr Streeting called for those responsible for briefing against him to be removed – and urged the Sir Keir to tackle the 'toxic culture' in Downing Street.
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What’s the downside?
>> What’s the downside?
Annihilating Labour is okay. I’m good with annihilation. Total, utter, unrecoverable annihilation would be even better.
Now do migrants.
Annihilating Labour is okay.
As is annihilating the Tories.
Sounds good to me.
Do it!
>> Annihilating Labour is okay. As is annihilating the Tories.
MASS ANNIHILATION! I’m down with that. Leaving only Nigel standing.
Applicable here as there.
"I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally.A most modern and accurate summary as well as historical warning, then, now. For all time."This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness and is truly their worst enemy.
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation on the ruins of public liberty."
The measure then is seen by "the ruins of public liberty."
And this is a bad thing?
“Annihilating Labour is okay.
As is annihilating the Tories.”
The problem is that the electorate still wants too much free stuff.
Would things be better? Absolutely.
Will things be good? Except on immigration, I doubt it.
Trouble is “parties” or factions are part of human nature. In any issue there will be different viewpoints and people will line up accordingly. You wouldn’t want to live in a nation with “one party”; think North Korea or Cuba!
Old Jewish saying regarding Jewish politics - Three Jews five parties! True with others too!
--- "factions are part of human nature"
The excerpt from Washington's speech mentions this: "The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation on the ruins of public liberty."
Limiting to "one party" was not Washington's premise, nor mine. But many Freepers use the expression, "uniparty," these days to refer to those groupings of "prevailing factions" -- part of human nature -- to aim straight at their own "elevation on the ruins of public liberty."
The choice is not one versus two, especially when two "unite" so often for the purpose of their own aggrandizement.
Given lifetime careers as politicians and lifetime careers as public servants and bureaucrats, it seems the issue is in part unlimited careers in politics and administration -- think the USAID debacle -- and the hefty remuneration paid to many, far beyond the median working individual or family in the nation. Public service like Pelosi's shouldn't end at 85 years of age and a hundred plus million dollars, and a daughter looking to emulate her mother.
The downside is that this will just be a rearrangement of the deck chairs.
Their Deep Srate still c9ntrols the parties, the candidates, and elections.
Those changes to election law since 2016 weren’t a coinkydink. Nor was the importation of millions of new voters who stay subject to the Deep State’s approval.
Until that all changes, the UK will stay screwed.
9 councils had their votes postponed not long ago.
Wonder if the UK’s Deep State will try that one again...
What creates the “uniparty” is political careerism. It doesn’t matter what side of the political spectrum you are on the longer you stay in office the differences between you and your political opposite blur and diminish. Constitution structural changes that increase the democracy element of the Constitution at the expense of the republican (not party!) element promote careerism and push toward “uniparty” behavior. Example of such a change - the 17th Amendment created “careerism” opportunities. There are several USSC decisions like Reynolds v. Sims do that also.
And this is interesting...
Patrick Christys
@PatrickChristys
The irony here is that all the news about Keir Starmer being ousted by his own Cabinet Ministers is distracting from yet another monumental scandal.
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Louie French MP
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Lisa Nandy broke the rules.
She hired a Labour Party donor, David Kogan.
Keir Starmer approved the hire.
They both had received cash from him.
He got a £130k part-time job, regulating football.
It’s favours over fans, cronies over clubs.
They can’t sweep it under the rug.
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https://x.com/PatrickChristys/status/1988690098540671156
Supporters of a parliamentary system say that it would be easy to vote out an incompetent administration. What they don’t take into account is party discipline. If a party has control of the legislature and is afraid of losing it, they may keep an incompetent prime minister in power rather than risk election losses.
Totally agree.
As to some "Constitutionalists" which whom I have debated in the past, I have made note that our Constitution has changed by small increment with each amendment and especially with each Supreme Court decision "finding" something not it in, as did Justice Kennedy in the Obergefell v. Hodges decision.
It's interesting to me that the last pushes to again amend the Constitution come from the political Left. This has been the far more rapid progress of the Europeans, moving from an initial "market agreement" to a supra-national state in only decades.
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