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The Democrats got the shutdown they wanted, and no one is happy
MSN ^ | 11/11/2025 | Christian Paz

Posted on 11/11/2025 1:15:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

The longest government shutdown in modern American history is about to end, after a handful of Democratic senators this weekend decided to provide Republicans enough votes to pass a short-term funding plan that would keep the government running until the end of January 2026.

While there’s not much for Democrats to write home about in this deal, it’s also not clear that they could have ever really won the showdown — or any of the concessions they were originally making. Moreover, the deal doesn’t put the issue to bed so much as it kicks the can down the road for a few months — through January — before another vote to fund the government will be needed. That leaves a question: Will the country find itself facing another shutdown in just a few months’ time?

For answers, I turned to Matt Grossman, director of Michigan State University’s Institute for Public Policy and Social Research, as well as the host of the Science of Politics podcast at the Niskanen Center, where he’s a senior fellow. Grossman is an expert on Congress, policymaking, and partisan politics, and I found his perspective both clarifying and grounding. This conversation has been edited for clarity and length.

The basics of the deal


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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; shutdown

1 posted on 11/11/2025 1:15:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

DEMS BIT OFF MORE THAN THEY COULD CHEW——


2 posted on 11/11/2025 1:28:53 PM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The next shutdown will last much longer. The democrats are out for blood, and it is getting closer to the midterms. The new communist leftists taking over will want the fight and those fearing reelection are going to pay if they don’t fall in line.


3 posted on 11/11/2025 1:32:03 PM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: packrat35

Thoroughly clean the voter rolls with zero mail-ins and the rat bastids won’t win diddly squat for the next 20+ years. Better yet.... do a total reset and have everyone reregister to vote.


4 posted on 11/11/2025 1:41:51 PM PST by LastDayz (A Blunt and Brazen Texan. I Will Not Be Assimilated.)
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To: packrat35

Agree.

Who could envision a scenario in which the Dems will allow even one mundane piece of legislation to pass with their cooperation in the US Congress from now on?

Honoring someone with a first day cover celebration of a postage stamp? Woke mobs will lie down in front of traffic to stop the House members from getting to the Capitol.


5 posted on 11/11/2025 1:45:53 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Reverses layoffs and pays back pay.
Guarantee snap for another year?
Who won?


6 posted on 11/11/2025 1:58:36 PM PST by Palio di Siena (Kralik…..you get the wallet)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I hope that when the GOP comes back and keeps its promise to hold a vote in regard to Obamacare in a few months that

A.B.O.L.I.S.H.

The realist in me know the GOP doesn’t have the guts to do with their vote that but its nice to dream. If we had a better republican party they would abolish Obamacare and keep their promise.(for those of us who still remember. Yes. They promised.)


7 posted on 11/11/2025 2:00:34 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

IMHO the expiration date in the Obamacare subsidies took away a lot of bargaining power from the Dims. Much like we hated having expiration dates on the Trump tax cuts, and before that on the Bush tax cuts.


8 posted on 11/11/2025 2:15:04 PM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If I’m not mistaken, the main group of ACA recipients of concern are those making more than 400% of the Poverty Limit as calculated for family size. Prior to the Covid relief, they were not entitled to a Premium Tax Credit nor are they entitled to it after expiration of the Covid benefits. You know, the “fair share” people they like to target.


9 posted on 11/11/2025 2:36:45 PM PST by NonValueAdded (First, I was a clinger, then deplorable, now I'm garbage. Feel the love? )
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10 posted on 11/11/2025 5:40:08 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They did nothing but hurt their brand for most of America, which is good for America. They literally shut down the government for nothing.


11 posted on 11/11/2025 10:06:09 PM PST by vpintheak (The left is violence.)
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