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Fury as California suburb with stark wealth gap adopts controversial anti-shoplifting measure
Daily Mail ^

Posted on 10/15/2025 5:46:25 AM PDT by TigerClaws

To combat shoplifters using the five-finger discount, Long Beach is taking aim at self-checkout. Retailers aren't happy about it.

In August, the California city rolled out a first-of-its-kind US law limiting how many self-checkout registers major stores can install.

The regulation highlights a tension between the rich and the poor in a community that sees hundreds of multi-million-dollar real estate deals each year, while also being home to 22.8 percent of residents who live below the federal poverty line. symbol

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; longbeach
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So the fault for the stealing is on the.... store?
1 posted on 10/15/2025 5:46:25 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Those poor 22+% of course should be allowed to steal stuff to supplement their household budgets. It is only fair.


2 posted on 10/15/2025 5:48:39 AM PDT by arthurus (l| covfeve |l +++)
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To: TigerClaws

“The regulation highlights a tension between the rich and the poor.”

Not following the logic.


3 posted on 10/15/2025 5:50:38 AM PDT by TheDon (Remember the J6 political prisoners! Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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To: TigerClaws

> The regulation highlights a tension between the rich and the poor <

Shouldn’t that be a tension between store owners and thieves?

Oh, well. I guess everything is Marxist class struggle these days.


4 posted on 10/15/2025 5:51:18 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: TheDon

Poor people have a right to steal and the rich people are against it. Yes, it’s confusing because it makes no sense.

EC


5 posted on 10/15/2025 5:53:02 AM PDT by Ex-Con777 (Leftists quote the Constitution like an atheist quotes the Bible)
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To: Leaning Right

Why would the retailers be against this proposal?
Doesn’t make sense. Do they want to be ripped off at self checkout?


6 posted on 10/15/2025 5:53:24 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: TheDon

The logical assumption is that poor people should be allowed to steal from more affluent every now and then. That’s usually how the brain works for anyone even slightly to the Left of center in their politics.


7 posted on 10/15/2025 5:54:20 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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---- "So the fault for the stealing is on the.... store?"

If you are writing for the "Daily Marxist", yes.

8 posted on 10/15/2025 5:54:21 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: TheDon

Rich people pay for their stuff and want the convenience of self checkout.

Poor folks steal. ?

I guess that’s the ‘tension’?

Mostly it’s clueless politicians failing to attach consequences to criminal activity and then being shocked when it increases in frequency. Then further shocked when the stores decide to close rather than lose money.


9 posted on 10/15/2025 5:55:11 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Maybe somebody should think about the societal impacts of creating a culture in which more and more people lie and steal. In case nobody noticed we have a lot of people that commit constant fraud and cover up for wrongdoing by themselves and their family members all the time.


10 posted on 10/15/2025 5:55:47 AM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: Williams

Many of those people you describe work in government.


11 posted on 10/15/2025 5:57:11 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: TigerClaws

For those of you old enough to remember Service Merchandise stores that is the model that stores in California will eventually use again. Basically have a small shopping area out front with displays, or at least fake displays, of the items for sale, but have the inventory in the back, secured tightly against DEI. The customers will then order and wait for their goods to arrive from the back. Using ‘technology’, such as a smart phone app, could make this very smooth.

The businesses really have no choice and they already have to lock up tons of stuff.


12 posted on 10/15/2025 5:58:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: TigerClaws

Long Beach is a weird city. Half the city is ghetto, the other half have mansions on Signal Hill.


13 posted on 10/15/2025 5:58:14 AM PDT by struggle
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Why would the retailers be against this proposal? Doesn’t make sense. Do they want to be ripped off at self checkout?

The current model has stores raising prices and the Democrats blame Trump’s tariffs which Karens believe. Only the law abiding public pays the prices. The other model has the mob looting and burning the stores while LAPD looks on or judges release the criminals:
14 posted on 10/15/2025 5:59:34 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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Why would the retailers be against this proposal? Doesn’t make sense. Do they want to be ripped off at self checkout?

I'm reading it as the stores like this proposal, they just don't want to say they like it. The stores don't want to say something that offends their young customers, even the paying ones.

15 posted on 10/15/2025 5:59:41 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: TigerClaws
The municipality can take actions under the "Attractive Nuisance Doctrine", since teenagers are attracted to self-checkout machines to either shoplift and/or purchase alcohol by not scanning the bottle of alcohol but instead scan a similar bottle twice.

The municipality also has the authority to tell store owners, "We will not have the taxpayers burdened with police and court system costs for shoplifting because you insist on using theft allowing devices (self-scanners)."

Some municipalities forced banks, for example, to install barriers to prevent robbers from jumping over the counter during holdups. Most laws were implemented more than a century ago but the issue came back up again when certain banks insisted they wanted no barriers for a "customer feel".

16 posted on 10/15/2025 6:02:38 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Bishop_Malachi

“Let them touch those things for once.”


17 posted on 10/15/2025 6:02:42 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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> Why would the retailers be against this proposal? <

The proposal limits how many self-checkout registers a store can install. Self-checkout registers can save the store money IF there is minimal stealing.

But there’s something else to consider. Awhile back I was talking to the manager of my local Walmart. He said the store is having trouble getting employees (cashiers) to show up. They’re scheduled, then they call off.

So the store is forced to open the self-checkout lines.


18 posted on 10/15/2025 6:02:46 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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I don't think this ordinance really has anything to do with shoplifting I think that's just the Daily Mail"s spin.

Stores hate shoplifting. But another thing they hate is having to pay more workers than they believe are necessary to run their stores. I think they oppose this solely because it will increase their labor costs.

I think there's a tipoff in the story where they say that customers and worker unions support the measure. Obviously, the reason the unions support it is because the stores will have to hire more workers.

That's what this is really about - not shoplifting.

19 posted on 10/15/2025 6:05:34 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin (L)
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To: BobL
More and more stores, even small chains, will go to a membership model like Costco or Sam's Club.

If you get caught stealing, you'll be trespassed any time you return in the future.

20 posted on 10/15/2025 6:05:49 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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