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Black Men United prepare if National Guard comes to Oakland
KTVU ^ | August 22, 2025 | By Amber Lee

Posted on 08/22/2025 5:17:55 PM PDT by artichokegrower

Some East Bay community leaders oppose the possible deployment of the National Guard in Oakland, as they say they're concerned that a military presence on city streets could bring problems.

A group called Black Men United held an event on Thursday night which they described as being part of a movement to improve safety and make lasting changes. The East Bay chapter of Live Free, a national nonprofit, put on this gathering.

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"What about the 16-year-old boy or girl just walking home from work, and they run into the National Guard, who may immediately say you're a ‘thug?’ How do you determine who's a thug?" said Todd Walker, an organizer with Live Free


How about the actual thug that would shoot the 16 year old boy

1 posted on 08/22/2025 5:17:55 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

The criminals think they own the streets. In Oakland, maybe they do.


2 posted on 08/22/2025 5:20:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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"How do you determine who's a thug?"

They have their own shirts. On Amazon.


3 posted on 08/22/2025 5:23:20 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: BenLurkin

“The criminals think they own the streets. In Oakland, maybe they do.”
lower Oakland. In the hills where the rich people live
it is safe.


4 posted on 08/22/2025 5:25:42 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: artichokegrower

Just make sure the Guard deployed there uses german shepards. They’ll love that.


5 posted on 08/22/2025 5:27:53 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: artichokegrower

If they want to patrol the streets against criminality then God Speed to them.


6 posted on 08/22/2025 5:33:08 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: artichokegrower

How about Black Men United clean up their own streets? Start by not making babies with women you are not married to and supporting the ones you have already made.

Then the national guard and much of the police would not be needed.


7 posted on 08/22/2025 5:33:22 PM PDT by gunnut
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I really don’t understand this hysteria about the National Guard.

I don’t think anybody’s of a mind to violate the Posse Comitatus Act!

The hysteria is unwarranted.


8 posted on 08/22/2025 5:33:37 PM PDT by old school
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"How do you determine who's a thug?" said Todd Walker, an organizer with Live Free"

Why don't you ride along with the police department in your city, and find out moron.

9 posted on 08/22/2025 5:34:22 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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Why do you think the Raiders and the A's left Oakland?

Hint: It wasn't because of The National Guard.

10 posted on 08/22/2025 5:37:26 PM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: artichokegrower

That should significantly reduce Oakland’s convicted felon population.


11 posted on 08/22/2025 5:41:51 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Exactly. If the blacks in that neighborhood policed their own streets, there would be no need for police to be called. Take care of, and clean out the criminals in your own neighborhood fool.

When I first started working as a Correction Officer at the maximum security Auburn Prison in Auburn, NY in 1980, I was told to make the biggest, and toughest black man on the gallery, the "water man." He was the guy who kept the inmates in line on the unit. He was called the "water man," because he filled all the individual buckets with hot water, that were left outside each cell every day by the inmates on the gallery. The last thing convicts wanted was the "police" come snooping around, and if there was a young punk who was drawing attention to the gallery, he was taken aside by the "water man" and read the riot act. If he needed to be roughed up a little to get the message, the "water man" took care of that too...of course out of view of staff. That's what these black neighborhoods need to do themselves if they don't want the "police" to come knocking on their doors.

12 posted on 08/22/2025 5:45:34 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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“””””I really don’t understand this hysteria about the National Guard.”””””

I don’t recall this hysteria at any time, ever, about the National Guard as though they are SS rolling in with tanks to destroy people.


13 posted on 08/22/2025 5:47:40 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Texas Eagle

Great post & 😄 funny but I think your hint is wasted on the Oakland punks. Maybe the brain power of a flea…


14 posted on 08/22/2025 5:48:28 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't. )
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If they want to patrol the streets against criminality then God Speed to them.

Yeah, but where has this group been until now? When mention is made of deploying the national guard, suddenly this group pops up out of nowhere and says, “No need, we’ve got this.” Appears to me the criminals want to “police” themselves.

15 posted on 08/22/2025 5:50:20 PM PDT by noiseman (I The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: fruser1
Detroit 1967.


16 posted on 08/22/2025 5:51:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: BenLurkin

I pray the NG shows up to provide a new reality for Oakland. However, if the NG does not show up, could it be because the decision has been made to just let it collapse entirely in Oakland?


17 posted on 08/22/2025 5:51:55 PM PDT by Racketeer
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To: artichokegrower
BM's making their presence on the streets of Oakland.

18 posted on 08/22/2025 5:52:55 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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“”How about Black Men United clean up their own streets? Start by not making babies with women you are not married to and supporting the ones you have already made.

Then the national guard and much of the police would not be needed.””

Careful, now. You don’t want to get Bill Cosby’d.


19 posted on 08/22/2025 5:53:20 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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RE: What about the 16-year-old boy or girl just walking home from work, and they run into the National Guard, who may immediately say you’re a ‘thug?’ How do you determine who’s a thug?” said Todd Walker, an organizer with Live Free.


To be fair, I saw the 1969 movie Medium Cool for the first time last week. Depressing to me as Seven, Carlito’s Way, 15 Minutes and the Mist. Theme of life being hopeless. And the news media useless.

In Medium Cool the nice, sweet mother of a little boy goes out looking for him in Chicago in 1968 as the demonstrations and then violent riots against the Democrat National Convention are happening. Cops tell her to forget about her report her son has wandered off or been abducted because “Our city has been invaded. I can’t spare even one officer for your case.”

She wanders around and while not part of any protest is told to “get down to the ground” with the radicals, which she does. And in another place “You will all be subject to arrest if you do not clear out now.” And she can’t really.

I think some incidents like that are going to happen in the justifiable ICE raids soon. Can’t be helped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy6E7_7Joi0

I didn’t recognize the young Robert Forster was the middle aged one years later in Jackie Brown with Pam Grier from the Elmore Leonard novel.


20 posted on 08/22/2025 5:56:01 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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