Posted on 07/23/2025 1:04:33 PM PDT by Mariner
Germany needs firm US assurances that it will quickly receive replacement Patriot anti-missile systems if it sends two of its own units to Ukraine, Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said Wednesday.
In comments to Der Spiegel news magazine, Pistorius said European NATO members needed "watertight" guarantees that any American-made Patriot air-defence systems sent to Ukraine would be replaced within about six to eight months.
US President Donald Trump last week announced a deal with NATO chief Mark Rutte for European alliance members to buy US weaponry -- particularly Patriot systems -- for Kyiv to help it in its war against Russia.
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Multiple countries want to be first in line, including the US.
Patriots don't grow on trees.
Who knew?
What, that they work? No refunds, Fritz.
Bill Belichick left the Patriots just in time.
So did Tom Brady, even before Bill
And we know just how credible Germany is at their own assurances, don’t we? It took them 10 years to cough up 2% of their own GDP to fund their own defense, the amount they agreed to in 2014 as a member of NATO.
How many divisions does this court command?
That’s okay....
the ukraine bros assure me that the grifter zelensky is kicking russia and putin’s butt!
There’s no need for nato countries to worry about their security, with zelensky defending them from russia....
Really!
They tell everyone that...... EVERY @%#!$ DAY
(just give zelensky all your weapons first)
That’s okay....
the ukraine bros assure me that the grifter zelensky is kicking russia and putin’s butt!
There’s no need for nato countries to worry about their security, with zelensky defending them from russia....
Really!
They tell everyone that...... EVERY @%#!$ DAY
(just give zelensky all your weapons first)
Germany is not to be trusted.
They currently produce 550 per year, and hopefully project up to 650 per year in 2026.
The US in the pacific theater could use 1,000 right now. Today.
They are critical for protecting military bases there.
Should we give Germany first dibs? Or, assuming after US stockpiles are adequate, we give them the next lot?
It’s not like we can just “turn it up” overnight.
Nope.
Not our war. Not out obligation to fund it, supply it, and otherwise perpetuate it.
“It’s not like we can just “turn it up” overnight.”
You are correct, but someone need to light a fire under someone to turn it up.
Taiwan is waiting to spend money on US ars we can’t or won’t deliver. Europe is waiting to spend money. Ramping up US manufacturing, and boosting the economy selling arms to allies is the quintessential MAGA move. Let’s get going!
We didn’t vote for this territorial conflict no matter who is winning or losing. Ukraine and Israel is sucking the life out of MAGA.
It takes a lot of time to make them. They aren’t cranked out in a few days.
In a long game, Russia can out last Ukraine even though Russia loses more men.
The only hope for Ukraine is either
1) Putin, Russian forces make a major mistake
2) Ukraine comes up with a creative (Drones, sabotage?) tactic to really hurt Russia
3) Miracle
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