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Fuel to engines cut off before Air India crash, preliminary report says
BBC ^ | July 12, 2025 | Jessica Rawnsley

Posted on 07/12/2025 5:16:46 AM PDT by jerod

Fuel to the engines of the Air India plane involved in a deadly crash was cut off moments after take-off, a preliminary investigation report has found.

In recovered cockpit voice recordings, the report said one of the pilots can be heard asking "why did you cut off?" - to which the other pilot replied he "did not do so".

The London-bound Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner crashed less than a minute after taking off on 12 June from Ahmedabad airport in western India, killing 260 people, most of them passengers. One British national miraculously survived the crash.

The investigation led by India's Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) is expected to produce a more detailed report in 12 months...

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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To: DownInFlames

The CVR and FDR were both read in India.

FWIW, I wouldn’t take anyone’s word for anything at the moment.


21 posted on 07/12/2025 5:48:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
This was Jihad in action.

Sometimes pilot error is just pilot error.

No need for conspiracy theories.

22 posted on 07/12/2025 5:48:42 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Thebaddog

That theory doesn’t hold up. They switches cannot simply be flipped on or off. Those switches require a very manual, dexterity type of movement as a built-in safety function.


23 posted on 07/12/2025 5:49:16 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Thebaddog

Hmm... Interesting theory.

These aircraft are so advanced they can be flown remotely... Which means somebody with the right hacking software can fly them remotely too. Scary stuff... Thankfully, I don’t fly on a regular basis... If I did, I’d be a tad concerned.


24 posted on 07/12/2025 5:51:26 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Thebaddog

There is no way remote control can move those switches.


25 posted on 07/12/2025 5:51:50 AM PDT by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: Obadiah

Exactly. I wonder if there was someone in the jump seat, It is possible they could have switched them off.


26 posted on 07/12/2025 5:53:15 AM PDT by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: Angelino97
We will see as the investigations into the private lives and beliefs of the pilots unfold. Conspiracy theory? Hush your mouth! More like due diligence.

“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

27 posted on 07/12/2025 5:54:40 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: jerod

Makes sense to cut off the fuel before crash-landing...of course, if the plane is climbing, then cutting off the fuel makes less sense.


28 posted on 07/12/2025 5:55:54 AM PDT by BobL
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To: volare737

I agree - it would make sense that the pressure would prevent such operation

There’s sometimes weird stuff - like the Greek (737?) where the cabin air system had been set to “test” or “manual” (forgot which) instead of “Auto” - they were losing oxygen while ascending - the contract pilot was already suffering from oxygen deprivation and didn’t catch it when maintenance said (on the radio) to check setting for “Auto”

Helios 522 if memory serves - I do not know if that is part of Takeoff Config now or not

I’m sure you know a lot about these things


29 posted on 07/12/2025 5:57:41 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: BobL

There is no procedure at all to ever cut off fuel— other than for an engine fire, overheat, failure, etc.


30 posted on 07/12/2025 5:59:01 AM PDT by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: Angelino97

“Sometimes pilot error is just pilot error.”

Not in this case. Unless something else is going wrong on the plane (which is still possible), there is NO REASON to be flipping switches immediately after takeoff.


31 posted on 07/12/2025 5:59:28 AM PDT by BobL
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To: SaveFerris

Fuel control is NOT part of any Takeoff Warning System. It makes no sense.


32 posted on 07/12/2025 6:00:25 AM PDT by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: volare737

I saw a report yesterday didn’t read it fully that fuel was shut off

Is this possible terrorism? Or a terrible mistake possible?

thanks


33 posted on 07/12/2025 6:00:44 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: volare737
"There is no way remote control can move those switches."

I doubt the switches directly control the flow of fuel. Maybe solenoid valves in the fuel lines could be hacked independently from the switches. But I'm only speculating here.

34 posted on 07/12/2025 6:01:43 AM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: SaveFerris

Yes, MANUALLY shutting the fuel control levers off is the only way they can be shutoff.


35 posted on 07/12/2025 6:02:35 AM PDT by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: volare737

Right but were they shut off or is that just a rumor right now?


36 posted on 07/12/2025 6:03:17 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Sudden Jihad syndrome until proven otherwise. Perhaps the rogue pilot had a secret conversion to Islam. Yes I see the pilots have Hindu names. Some last names in India are used by Hindu and Moslems.


37 posted on 07/12/2025 6:03:21 AM PDT by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity)
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To: dennisw
Yep. You nailed it.

38 posted on 07/12/2025 6:03:51 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: omni-scientist

There is only one other way to shut fuel off to the engines— pulling the fire handles.


39 posted on 07/12/2025 6:04:09 AM PDT by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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To: volare737

That’s what I figured


40 posted on 07/12/2025 6:04:15 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in thays of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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