Posted on 07/01/2025 6:07:10 PM PDT by thegagline
“ NY has almost no military facilities. ”
Not entirely correct as a matter of fact it has two major posts and number of smaller ones. Fort Drum (home of the 10th Mountain Division) and the United States Military Academy at West Point.
In addition New York has a huge contingent of Department of Homeland Security (ICE, Border Patrol, Coast Guard) and numerous FAA elements. The Federal government also protects 455 miles of border between New York and Canada.
Good point!
CA would be a mixed bag: huge welfare population but also big military facilities and a lot of defense work.
Just trying to get at the fact that it's not just money in vs. money received.
NY state does have a lot of Defense contractors (including just about all the major ones) but I get your point. Have a good one !
Thank you
“Then, many move to an area they never worked in, raised kids in or were part of a community for decades and get the benefit of merely retiring there. “
And after retiring in Florida they pay high property taxes supporting schools and related infrastructure they never use.
“They walk into the area getting homestead via their age. “
Not via their age. Via owning a home as their primary residence.
“Also some folks don’t realize that a state like New Jersey funds almost 100% of roadway construction and maintenance through state taxes and tolls. It receives almost no Federal funding for highways.”
Fact check:
Federal Funds
Federal revenues for FY 2024 are projected at $2.507 billion. NJDOT’s share of the federal funding is $1.600 billion, while NJ Transit’s allotment is $907 million.
https://www.nj.gov/transportation/capital/tcp24/
Yup, it should be the other way around. Medicaid should be included, while SS should be excluded. Especially since I bet they include SS taxes as income, giving high-wage/CoL States like NY or CA or NJ a higher relative pay-in than States where a two-bedroom apartment is only $800/mo. Sewing the numbers on both sides of this ratio.
Also, why would military bases be included? That’s not specifically $$ going to the State...
Here it goes…
A 2024 report on Medicaid spending doesn’t seem to exist, yet. Maybe that’s the reason why it wasn’t included in the 2024 chart at the top?
But I found a 2023 Medicaid spending report, so I must use 2023 numbers.
The numbers on the chart below were taken from these sources:
For Medicaid, the federal government pays a percentage (that can’t be lower than 50%) to each state, and the state pays the rest. States with higher incomes receive a lower percentage; states with lower incomes receive a higher percentage.
2023 Federal Matching Percentage by State
2023 Federal and State Share of Medicaid Spending
Total Federal Taxes Collected from each state (Click on 2023.)
2023 U.S. States by Population
I picked states at the top and bottom of the list.
The numbers speak for themselves… (but, if I made an error, let me know).
RECEIVER STATES: These states received a much larger chunk of what they paid in.
New Mexico paid $12 billion in federal taxes and received $7 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
West Virginia paid $9 billion in federal taxes and received $5 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
Alaska paid $7 billion in federal taxes and received $2 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
Mississippi paid $15 billion in federal taxes and received $5 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
Alabama paid $36 billion in federal taxes and received $6 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
DONOR STATES: The taxpayers in these states paid much more in tax revenue then their states received in return.
New Jersey paid $181 billion in federal taxes and received $15 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
Washington paid $155 billion in federal taxes and received $20 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
California paid $569 billion in federal taxes and received $81 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
New York paid $374 billion in federal taxes and received $62 billion from the federal government for Medicaid.
As someone wrote in a post above, it's really all about the individual taxpayer - not the states. But, if we're comparing states, here it is...
FISCAL YEAR 2023: FEDERAL TAX REVENUE vs. FEDERAL MEDICAID SPENDING BY STATE
(Numbers rounded to nearest billion)
**** RECEIVER STATES (at the top of the list) ****
NEW MEXICO (Population: 2,113,344)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from NM: ~ $12 Billion
Federal Spending on Medicaid in NM: ~ $7 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in NM: ~ $1 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 79.46%
WEST VIRGINIA (Population: 1,775,156)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from WV: ~ $9 Billion
Federal Medicaid Spending in WV: ~ $5 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in WV: < $1 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 80.22%
ALASKA (Population: 733,583)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from AK: ~ $7 Billion
Federal Medicaid Spending in AK: ~ $2 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in AK: < $1 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 56.2%
MISSISSIPPI (Population: 2,940,057)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from MS: ~ $15 Billion
Federal Medicaid Spending in MS: ~ $5 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in MS: ~ $1 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 84.06%
ALABAMA (Population: 5,074,296)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from AL: ~ $36 Billion
Federal Medicaid Spending in AL: ~ $6 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in AL: ~ $2 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 78.63%
**** DONOR STATES (at the bottom of list)****
NEW JERSEY (Population: 9,261,699)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from NJ: ~ $181 Billion
Federal Medicaid Spending in NJ: ~ $15 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in NJ: ~ $8 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 56.2%
WASHINGTON (Population: 7,785,786)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from WA: ~ $155 Billion
Federal Medicaid Spending in WA: ~ $20 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in WA: ~ $9 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 56.2%
CALIFORNIA (Population: 39,029,342)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from CA: ~ $569 Billion
Federal Medicaid Spending in CA: ~ $81 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in CA: ~ $43 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 56.2%
NEW YORK (Population: 19,677,151)
Total Federal Tax Revenue collected from NY: ~ $374 Billion
Federal Medicaid Spending in NY: ~ $62 Billion
State Spending on Medicaid in NY: ~ $36 Billion
Federal Medical Assistance Percentage: 56.2%
Regards.
...much more in tax revenue than their states received in return.
Thanks for posting your research on Medicaid.
Brilliant! Thanks. Who really are the free loaders?
Interesting, with the exception of NM all the “donor” states seem to have massive corporate tax bases and then shell out more $ per person than the receiver states. Speaks to economically stratified societies, except NM where everybody is poor.
This is awesome. Thank you for posting this.
Thanks for the post, tired of taxes!
Thanks for your posts. Have a great weekend!
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