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Exclusive: Israel seeks swift action on Iran, sources say, with a split U.S. administration
REUTERS ^ | June 21, 2025 | Humeyra Pamuk, Samia Nakhoul, Alexander Cornwell and Emily Rose

Posted on 06/21/2025 1:33:42 PM PDT by McGruff

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To: CatHerd

That guy would be lucky to last a day in that place. Yes, there are those that will be happy the mullahs are gone. That doesn’t mean they want him installed.

There is also the other groups and islamists that are going to be creating a lot of violence for whoever thinks they can get that place in line.
Iraq 2.0


41 posted on 06/21/2025 3:00:52 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Jim Noble

[Bombing does not win wars.]


This is a raid, not a war, where some amount of land is usually at stake. For Iran, it’s a campaign in a several decade war at the end of which it hopes to kill every last Jew in Israel. For Israel, it’s yet another raid to swat the current threat, an outgrowth of Islamic eschatology. Muslims believe a Final Solution to the Jewish question is necessary for the world to end. This is literally why Muslims have such an affinity for Nazism - the two creeds are fellow travelers in this regard.


42 posted on 06/21/2025 3:04:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: McGruff

The biggest risk I see from us bombing Fordow is Iran responding by unleashing sleeper cells here in America. I don’t really know how big of a threat that actually is, but 4 years of open borders certainly didn’t help. That risk aside, I don’t see a lot of down side for the U.S. from taking out Fordow if need be. Israel has revealed Iran to be, in large part, a paper tiger, and their ability to project military strength has been seriously degraded by them.

As far as Trump waiting to make his decision, there’s a lot going on behind the scenes, about which we don’t know, so it’s hard to say for sure what his reasoning is. It’s possible Iranian opposition is being organized to take advantage of the damage being inflicted on the Iranian regime. Perhaps we’re waiting for those efforts to reach a critical mass before unleashing the final offensive. Also letting Israel do as much as they can first has its advantages. There is also the diplomatic message Trump is sending to the world by giving Iran the opportunity to end the war with a negotiated settlement. It could be all these reasons and others I haven’t thought of.


43 posted on 06/21/2025 3:11:06 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: CatHerd

People pimping for the Shah to return have turned in their Hamid Karzai and Jalal Talabani fan club merch.


44 posted on 06/21/2025 3:11:32 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: dennisw
This must be torture for Israel but they BUY their weaponry from us.

"Buy".... lmao.

45 posted on 06/21/2025 3:13:14 PM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington0 DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: A Navy Vet

RE: Huh? Iโ€™ve read that B-2โ€™s were heading to Quatar and/or Diego Garcia.

Not again.
Nitpicking and countering everything I say here.

I never even said where they were GOING. I said they were taken away after the Houthis were thought to be no longer an active threat. To “Missouri.”

Now they are going to Guam after several refueling visits en route in the air as they head for Iran and to probably hit Iran with bunker busting bombs. Which is the reason for taking off with a light load of fuel due to the 2 —15,000 pound bombs each carries.

Godspeed and protect the troops.


46 posted on 06/21/2025 3:23:59 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: bantam

[There is NO NEED FOR A 2 WEEK hug it out fest!
I do not for the life of me get this 2 weeks thing!
Itโ€™s BS!!!]


If it’s just a few bombs, there’s no need. If Trump intends on a big air campaign, of hundreds of sorties a day, two weeks isn’t a long time to build up a force able to get the job done. Desert Storm featured 3000 sorties a day for 30 days. That meant close to 3K fighter/bomber aircraft in the region, since every plane can do one sortie a day, on average. That buildup took almost half a year, included 6 carriers.


47 posted on 06/21/2025 3:24:46 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Jim Noble

I read it all and I doubt that Yon will pan out.


48 posted on 06/21/2025 3:43:49 PM PDT by dennisw (๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ)
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To: SoConPubbie

Left wing rag, all BS.


49 posted on 06/21/2025 3:44:50 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits NOW)
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To: Kazan

โ€œIsrael absolutely shouldn’t expect anymore than limited, surgical strikes on Iran from us.โ€

Who is โ€œusโ€, Skippy?

It sure as hell doesnโ€™t include you.

L


50 posted on 06/21/2025 3:46:22 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Williams

I think Bebe and the Donald have a good game of “good cop/bad cop going on here........


51 posted on 06/21/2025 3:48:57 PM PDT by Segovia
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To: Williams

You are right about Trumps wait period to decide yeas or no on the next step for the US. Which I figure is to fly in the bunker busters for Natanz and Fordow centrifuges.

Meanwhile Israel is free to attack by air, Iranian installations. Military and otherwise.


52 posted on 06/21/2025 3:49:08 PM PDT by dennisw (๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Truth is Hate to those who Hate the Truth. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ)
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To: CatHerd

RE: They cost a shade over two billion each...and who would insure it?

They could get one company to bundle all their vehicles and save. Include the hangars along with the bombers.๐Ÿ“‘


53 posted on 06/21/2025 3:51:24 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: bantam

Tell Trump and his logistics planners that you are upset that they do not know how to prepare for war. Advise that you could have won WWII in less than a week.


54 posted on 06/21/2025 3:55:10 PM PDT by Cobra64 (ECommon sense isnโ€™t common anymore.)
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To: McGruff

Israel can go to hell


55 posted on 06/21/2025 3:59:29 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: McGruff
The two sources familiar with the matter said Israel had communicated their concerns to Trump administration officials on Thursday in what they described as a tense phone call.

That was Thursday. Today is Saturday in US, Sunday in the Middle East. What changed ?

Multiple B2s, etc. left the US bound for the Middle East. And, from Amir Tsarfati's feed :

Ahead of a combined air and ground attack: 
Report of an attack on a guard post in the Fordow area.
t.me
2h

56 posted on 06/21/2025 4:02:30 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: SoConPubbie

There IS a way for Israel to take out the mountain with 3 planes and 3 of the smaller, 15000 pound bombs.

It’s tricky and the bombs are dropped very close to each other..but it is a plan that they have drawn up just in case.


57 posted on 06/21/2025 4:05:35 PM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: McGruff

Good luck to Israel—I hope they succeed in killing off the mullahs. USA should not commit to any sort of combat, in my opinion.


58 posted on 06/21/2025 4:07:27 PM PDT by rod5591
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To: McGruff

I’m very doubtful bunker busters can do the job. Read up on the Grand Slam bombs.

Israel needs to work on decapitating the regime, which I think is the best path forwards.


59 posted on 06/21/2025 4:55:52 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: McGruff

I think they just got it. ๐Ÿ˜‰


60 posted on 06/21/2025 5:04:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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