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Discredited Neocon Talking Points From The Iraq War Are Back, Lazily Re-Purposed For Iran
The Federalist ^ | June 18, 2025 | By John Daniel Davidson

Posted on 06/18/2025 9:52:08 AM PDT by Kazan

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The Trump administration must come up with better arguments than WMD ones used to justify the Iraq war for involvement in the war in Iran.

Iran was nowhere close to having a nuclear missile that could reach the US.

Dirty bomb? China could give a dirty bomb to Islamic terrorists. There is always a remote chance it could happen.

Most importantly, Trump keep us out of direct involvement in the war, push to end this war quickly and get back to working to get his domestic agenda passed.

1 posted on 06/18/2025 9:52:08 AM PDT by Kazan
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So you'd rather wait until Iranian nuclear weapons are murdering millions of people first? Sorry, I'm just not as trusting of the biggest state sponsor of terror in the world. You know, the folks who literally chant "death to American, Death to Israel, Big Satan, Little Satan, the world will talk about this response for hundreds of years", etc. When monsters tell you what they're going to do, you should believe them.

We must allow Israel to keep bombing them until they surrender and have a total overhaul of their governing system. Let the Iranians decide for themselves... but no matter what they choose, it won't have much of a military, it won't have a nuclear program, and it will have to rebuild its oil infrastructure (and maybe rethink their decision to sell it to Russia).

Hopefully Israel can complete the job themselves, and won't need our weapons (not personnel) to join in.

2 posted on 06/18/2025 9:56:41 AM PDT by Teacher317
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GW 1 & 2 did a lot of good. Did not do everything we hoped for, but the Middle East is a VASTLY calmer place than it was before GW1.

Trump never promised no military action of any kind. He’d have been an IDIOT to do so.

I also trust him VASTLY more than a Russian sympathizer on FR...


3 posted on 06/18/2025 9:57:53 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Kazan
The Trump administration must come up with better arguments than WMD ones used to justify the Iraq war for involvement in the war in Iran.

Iran was nowhere close to having a nuclear missile that could reach the US

Well India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons, but unlike Iran they don't threaten Israel or the US, so you are okay with Iran.

4 posted on 06/18/2025 9:58:15 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: Kazan
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5 posted on 06/18/2025 9:58:29 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mr Rogers
but the Middle East is a VASTLY calmer place than it was before GW1.

LOL. I can't see you, but are you saying that with a straight face?

6 posted on 06/18/2025 9:59:47 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Kazan

Reagan’s great achievement was winning the Cold War, smashing the Berlin Wall and collapsing the Soviet Union — and the US never fired a shot.

I see Israel collapsing Iran. Which is good. I’m hoping that this great achievement can be accomplished without the US firing a shot.


7 posted on 06/18/2025 10:01:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Teacher317

Replace Iranian nuclear weapons with Climate Change, and you get the same crap for the past 30 years.

Funny how all the Bloodthirsty Boomers are all over going to war with Iran, but laugh at what is actually happening to nuclear powers (Germany, U.K., France) being taken over by the same people.


8 posted on 06/18/2025 10:02:31 AM PDT by Chipper
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(Iran was nowhere close to having a nuclear missile that could reach the US.)

According to patriotic Tulsi Gabbard, they still aren’t!


9 posted on 06/18/2025 10:02:46 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. Onw!as a cylindrical object)
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I'd rather let Israel handle the problem.

Iran is threat to Israel.

We give money and weapons to Israel. It's Israel's fight.

10 posted on 06/18/2025 10:04:04 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Mr Rogers
Trump absolutely promised to keep us out of unnecessary foreign wars.

The vast majority oppose us getting involved directly in this war.

And, again, here we have another Zeeper idiot referencing Russia. Any involvement we have in this war should have NOTHING to do with Russia.

11 posted on 06/18/2025 10:06:41 AM PDT by Kazan
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"Similarly, the point about how we have to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here — a ubiquitous line in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003"

A phrase also heard from Zeepers on this site ad nauseum for several years. Some may still be using it.

12 posted on 06/18/2025 10:07:42 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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Montage: 24 Years of Fearmongering That Iran Is Getting Nukes

https://rumble.com/v6uxc89-montage-24-years-of-fearmongering-that-iran-is-getting-nukes.html?e9s=src_v1_upp

13 posted on 06/18/2025 10:07:43 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell.k and Trump <p>)
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To: Kazan

If Trump goes to war with Iran that’s it for MAGA. Half of MAGA is not onboard for this and are already quite vocal about it all across the internet. And there’s a lot of people in Congress likely to be primaried.


14 posted on 06/18/2025 10:09:55 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Mr Rogers
Did not do everything we hoped for, but the Middle East is a VASTLY calmer place than it was before GW1.

Can you make a dumber comment?

There has been nothing but chaos in the middle over the past 33 years.

We've had two failed wars that cost use thousands of lives and cost us billions of dollars that accomplished nothing but radicals assuming power in the middle east.

You're a fool if you think we can start wars, fight wars and kill our way to a peaceful middle east.

There will never be peace in the middle east with almost two billion Muslims there.

It's discredited fantasy to think we can turn Muslims countries into Western friendly democracies.

The Republican party is not going back to being the party of Bush.

15 posted on 06/18/2025 10:11:08 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Chipper

My favorite line was “The Vaunted Republicans Guard of the Iraqi army.”


16 posted on 06/18/2025 10:12:39 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Kazan

They’ve been enriching uranium at the 65% level for a while. That’s bomb material.


17 posted on 06/18/2025 10:12:48 AM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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No regime change. No American boots on the ground in Iran. A qualified “yes” to American bombers dropping bunker-busters on the Fordow nuclear facility. That’s it - and I don’t believe Trump’s core principles will ever lead him toward regime change. He knows better.


18 posted on 06/18/2025 10:15:01 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: PGR88

Oh man I almost forgot about Ashley. I am coming around to the idea of taking out the regime. The world would thank us, at least privately. I think everyone has had their fill of Iran causing problems everywhere. Even Russia is kinda giving a wink and a nod.


19 posted on 06/18/2025 10:15:26 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: ClearCase_guy

Exactly. If they want a few MOP’s, sure.

As for Reza Pahlavi - he can STFU. This is America, and we’re not reinstating puppet royalty. That ship sailed after getting it’s tea raided some time back.


20 posted on 06/18/2025 10:15:53 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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