Posted on 06/02/2025 8:04:16 AM PDT by cuz1961
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The petitioners have been a consortium of environmental groups and neighbors of the project in southern Boulder County who filed a lawsuit in 2018 against Denver Water and the Army Corps of Engineers which approved the project, as well as the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Their primary objections were to drawing water from the headwaters of the Colorado River on other side of the Continental Divide through the Moffat Water Tunnel, clearing the trees as part of the project to enlarge the reservoir, and effects on wildlife, including elk habitat.
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While never being labeled as controversial.
Clean energy but the endangered flying pup dog fish might get indigestion so we must protest
Water for Denver and Boulder? Stop the damn! Save the gay whales! I hope they stop it. Those ass clowns in Denver and Boulder impose their radical environmentalist will on the rest of the state, they steal elections, they vote for Democrats at every turn, they rabidly believe in the orgy of immigration, faggotry and sex changes for kiddos hidden from parents, and global warming….
And now they wanna drink a water? Eff em… I hope they parch.
“And now they wanna drink a water? Eff em… I hope they parch.”
Give them time. Colorado is not fully Kalifornicated yet. When done they will follow their masters on the left coast and drain reservoirs, abolish damns, sell off fire equipment that might be needed for wild fires and maybe even get a high speed rail from Denver to Boulder for an ultra low figure of just a few billion dollars, then each year keep adding to the figure while actual construction is barely visible.
Don’t know about the level particulars but I’m surprised they’re being allowed to tap the headwaters of the Colorado on the other side of the continental divide. That is a severely overdrawn water source already
Gonna be interesting to watch.
Drawing water from the Colorado will decrease the volume going south.
Gonna be hell to pay eventually.
That system is way to small to supply what is needed downstream.
California needs its amount cut, in half.
“ Drawing water from the Colorado will decrease the volume going south.”
I’m surprised Mexico hasn’t sued yet.
I thought they did?
I should have been paying closer attention.⁷
Anyway, this will be interesting especially since Phoenix is facing severe water shortages.
Las Vegas seems to be fine as of now but, all of AZ, aside from the towns along the Colorado, are in trouble.
There are already towns where the wells have dried up.
Kingman AZ, for example, has enough left in its Aquifer for another 50 years or so at present use. Yet they keep building. That leaves one place to get water. The Colorado.
I know there is something called the Colorado river compact that involves Colorado New Mexico Utah Arizona and Nevada. Everyone gets a certain allotment. So I would guess it’s within that allotment. If not, lawsuits are coming.
Reason # 532 to deport the illegals. They increase demand for everything, including water.
Been happening foe 50 years
Lake dillon in summit county is owned by the city and county of denver. If memory serves there are three pipelines that carry water from west of the divide to eastern slope.
As Dick Lamm once said when arizona and nevada and california were squawking about the diversion: It is, afterall called the Colorado River and with that told downstream states in the West to suck it
REMEMBER THE FIGHT AGAINST THE ALASKA PIPELINE?
THE CARIBOU—ETC
TURNS OUT THE CARIBOU WELP THEIR YOUNG BY THE PIPELINE-—IT IS WARMER
I tell everyone. DO NOT, move to AZ for long term reasons.
There is NO FRIGGAN WATER.
Yet, the stupid people, especially Californians, rush in.
Much of Nevada is the same.
Yet they keep building.
Not too many people know that the pipeline is heated. The population of Caribou massively increased.
Finally noticed your tagline. LOVE IT! LOVE IT! Succinct and brilliant.
“I’m surprised Mexico hasn’t sued yet.”
Mexico has a treaty with the USA over the amount of water they get from the Colorado River system. It’s 1.5 million acre feet per year minimum on a ten year rolling average.
The upper basin states via the Supreme Court’s upholding the 1922 compact have 45.5% of the total volume that passes through the system. The upper basin states allocate amongst each other on percentages of total flows the lower basin states have hard acre feet allocations. The compact allocates 51.7% of the upper basin amounts to the state of Colorado as a whole. They can choose how Colorado citizens divert and use it meaning they don’t have to ask permission to cross basin use as long as it is Colorado water inside Colorado State lines. All use is assumed to be consumptive use and no return to basin use of waste water is implied or expected.
https://www.ppic.org/publication/the-colorado-river/
Nevada is fine they get 300,000 acre feet per year that’s it as the smallest allocation under the 1922 compact.
The Supreme Court upheld the legal standing that any waters that flow from your state into the Colorado River system is that states individual waters and not part of the 1922 allocation. This means that any flows from the Nevada side of the lake Mead system are Nevada’s 100%. It does rain in Nevada and what hits the Las Vegas basin all flows down the Las Vegas wash directly into lake Mead. Every cubic foot is counted and added to Nevada’s total in storage in lake Mead. Similarly every drop of waste water that flows down the Las Vegas wash is also counted back into their water budget. Nevada is the world leader in urban water recycling only Israel is higher in percentage and volumes. 99% of indoor water in the Las Vegas basis is recycled in some form or another. That amount is 45% of the total water use in that basin. Here again only Israel beats them in volume but not percentages. Nevada has put so much recycled water into lake Mead that they have a 10 year storage balance as in 3,000,000 plus acre feet in storage that they alone can use regardless of down stream users it’s their senior water rights under the Supreme Court’s ruling.
The Green River also flows into lake Mead from the Nevada side here again every drop us Nevada water and Nevada waters only. It average about 100,000 additional acre feetper year some years more some less a lot less. It just adds to Nevada’s water bank when it flows good.
Nevada now has 3 “straws” to draw water from lake Mead and its water bank plus it’s 300,000 acre feet per year allocation. The third one was tunneled under the deepest part of the lake basin on the Las Vegas wash side to be out of the sediment plume that flows down dip to the foot of Hoover dam. The 3rd straw intake is at 890ft MSL this is 5 feet below the level of where lake Mead cannot pass water down stream via it’s outlet valves this is also known as dead pool elevation. Which means at that point every drop coming down the Colorado River is trapped behind Hoover dam and cannot be passed down stream. Nevada still has 5 feet of headway to draw water at that point and at that elevation that 5 feet is 2,000,000 acre feet. At no point in the Colorado River system recorded history has flow ever been less than 6 million acre feet per year so Nevada will NEVER be out of water that is exactly why they dug to the bathtub drain and put their intake system there. That intake has a 100 foot vertical stand pipe up to the 890 ft level meaning the depth of water at that point is 105 feet at dead pool of 895ft they could cut ports anywhere along that stand pipe to access even lower water levels. That last 100 feet holds another 3 million plus acre feet that only Nevada can get without blowing the Hoover dam itself open or tunneling under it in a Herculean effort against TBM pressure and inflows that would make tunneling nearly impossible.
Yes I am a Hydro Geologist who was stationed at the Lake Mead district it was my back 40 for a number of years. Nevada is good we made sure that they have water for at least the 700 years Hoover dam is going to be viable for.
Grrr auto complete not green river the Virgin River flows into lake Mead.
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