Posted on 05/31/2025 3:24:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
On May 13th, 2025, a potentially catastrophic mistake unfolded at San Francisco International Airport when United Airlines Flight 1152 turned the wrong way after takeoff—directly into the path of SkyWest Flight 5273.
This was one of the closest calls we've seen this year—just 0.4 nautical miles and 280 feet separated these two planes. We walk through the ATC audio, analyze the pilot decision-making, and talk about what needs to change to prevent this from happening
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Sum Ting Wong
Wee Too Lo
“Approach let me fly 500 ft under the nose of an airliner once in my 172 30 some years ago in the San Fernando Valley”
I had a skydiver King Air land over the top of me one time. I filed a report and then I found out they let the FAA guys jump free so nothing happened. He did it to another guy a few weeks later and the guy went to the skydive office and punched the sucker right in the mouth.
“The first mistake was letting planes take off parallel in the same direction, that is a controller system mistake.”
No. It’s common in San Francisco. There are two parallel runways heading north and two parallel runways heading (almost) west.
It’s even more fun when you are landing simultaneously with another aircraft next to you.
Keep rolling those dice and eventually you hit snake eyes.
Agreed. Taking off on parallel runways is common practice at LAX alao.
They should spend less time flying the computer and instead fly the damn plane.
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Just follow the RA from the TCAS and all will be well. Too much drama being made out of a nothingburger. Should never have happened, but that’s what TCAS is for.
“They should spend less time flying the computer and instead fly the damn plane.”
No kidding. They are taking off on the right runway. They KNOW they have to turn to the right and the guy on the left runway has to turn to the left. The moment the plane started turning left the pilot should have taken control and turned right.
Thank God the SkyWest pilot was on the ball, took control, and turned right to avoid UA.
A “nothing burger”? UA turned LEFT when they should have turned RIGHT, missed Skywest by 300 feet? It seems that only the heads-up flying by Skywest avoided the crash. The UA pilot didn’t notice the plane began incorrectly turning left at 480 feet and take control to re-direct to the right?
All that amounts to a nothing burger? Remind me to not fly with you.
In addition to mandatory retirement at age 65, I wonder how strict United Airlines was with demanding that their pilots take the not-a-vaccine. I fly United regularly and it concerns me.
I had an an aborted takeoff some years ago. Two planes were started on perpendicular runways at same time. Our DC10 pilot noticed the plane approaching from the left and went into full stop mode, thankfully avoiding a crash.
My scariest moment was landing in Pisa, Italy in 1977. There was a long, low fog bank and the ground was not visible...BUT you could see smokestacks poking up through the fog. They were probably 500 ft tall. The pilot decides to try the landing. We were in the fog forever and, when we finally popped out, I saw the runway was 100 meters to the right! He pushed the throttles forward and we went around...to try a second time! I tell you, I’ve never been so scared in my life. What made him think he could find the runway the second time? Anyway, we repeated, dropped out the bottom of the fog bank and there was the runway below us!
the onboard computer was not reprogrammed when they were sent to different takeoff runway.
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Honest question. The nav was programmed for the left runway and the plane was diverted to take off from the right runway. The nav program was not updated. I assume the pilot is flying the plane at takeoff and was following the nav instructions. Please tell me that the computer is not steering the plane at takeoff and the failure was the dumbass pilot and nothing else.
UA captain listed as Ai Xqu Ap
The younger pilots are way too ‘computer focused’ being mostly computer operators—while older pilots are much better ‘stick and rudder’ pilots.
But the bottom line is this, if ATC directs runway heading, the pilots must fly runway heading regardless of what is programmed in the computer.
UA 1152—
More ‘missing’ going on:
“This was one of the closest calls we’ve seen this year”
The 1152 list has sure grown over time. As far as the Friendly Skies go, there’s
a complete healing from heaven
רפואה שלמה מן השמים
a sum which first appears at the beginning of Gen 1:2,
והארץ היתה תהו ובהו
I thought I could get thru this thread without a DEI comment.
DEI means always turn left. Not right.
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