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They Were Every Student’s Worst Nightmare. Now (because of ChatGPT) Blue Books Are Back.
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 23, 2025 | Ben Cohen

Posted on 05/25/2025 3:57:36 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: Clay Moore
Every capability on this Radio Shack ad resides in your phone nowadays.


41 posted on 05/25/2025 4:36:25 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: DoodleBob

The problem with oral exams is that they automatically punish shy people, who otherwise are often the smartest people in the room- and a lot of talent would be lost.
It would be like expecting someone without hands to have fine penmanship.

I suppose if there were equal weight placed on oral vs written then it would give a better estimation of knowledge and comprehension. Usually the people who are better orally aren’t as gifted at writing.


42 posted on 05/25/2025 4:37:26 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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To: DoodleBob

Literally stunned by the number of people suggesting oral exams. Oral exams open the door for the instructor to grade upon whether they like your voice, whether you sound like a hot blond or the dweeby nerd from “Revenge of the Nerds.” The professors I know in hard sciences and graduate schools all say they just want anonymous work-product. They really just want to grade what’s on the paper.

At the same time, I’m told that there are standard software packages that will let students just type without access to the internet and also without the professor having to decode their handwriting. Every prof I know other than a few in social sciences type fields desperately wants *NOT* to know anything about the person answering the question.


43 posted on 05/25/2025 4:39:57 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: UnwashedPeasant

AOC says she can’t read the Constitution because it’s all written in cursive ...forgetting of course that ...


44 posted on 05/25/2025 4:40:01 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: DoodleBob
future workplaces

WSJ kidding themselves.

45 posted on 05/25/2025 4:40:57 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: DoodleBob

My cell phone doesn’t do so well with AM radio.....


46 posted on 05/25/2025 4:40:59 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: dfwgator

Blue books at my school were free. Stacks of them would show up outside rooms where exams were held. Many of us grabbed a big bunch and would use them for homework problem sets.


47 posted on 05/25/2025 4:42:08 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: DoodleBob
I never understood in K-12 why we had word problems in math.
I didn't go to college but I did learn multiplication tables from a Pee Chee folder up to 12x12.

I still know them and use them to this day.

As a result, I can do math in my head faster than you can punch the numbers in a calculator.

48 posted on 05/25/2025 4:42:12 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: DoodleBob

bkmk


49 posted on 05/25/2025 4:43:30 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: DoodleBob

GREAT Movie.


50 posted on 05/25/2025 4:46:59 PM PDT by krizzy (Damn the Torpedoes, Full speed ahead)
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To: DoodleBob
There's going to be a span of a few decades in which the kind of desk jobs done by white collar workers are taken over completely by AI. Manual jobs such as plumbing, construction, electrician will still need to be done by people, but as humaniform robots with AI start to come on board, those jobs will also be done more economically by hardware/software tools.

I'm not sure what the future holds, but the changes to how humanity lives are going to be breathtaking. I always thought Vernor Vinge and Ray Kurzweil were far too optimistic in their projections for the technological singularity, but they are much smarter men than I am - they seem to be spot on as far as their timelines.
51 posted on 05/25/2025 4:50:54 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: dfwgator

I am a retired manufacturing engineer who started using cnc machines in the mid 70’s. The technology allowed me to control precision production in a way that was amazing. Retired, I now use different AI’s for different purposes. For coding, i use one AI, for fictional story development , whether a book, short story , or script dialogue, I use and AI. another one helps me develop soundtrack music and songs. I develop images for green screen backgrounds with an AI. They increase my creative throughput enormously. However they will provide false information, tell you what you want to hear, and play loose if you don’t know your subject and have enough language skills to delineate strong boundaries for the output. They are a future fact, and knowing how to use them effectively needs to be a course, just like JCL, COBOL, Fortran, and basic were courses at one time.


52 posted on 05/25/2025 4:56:35 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: DoodleBob

I remember those days...


53 posted on 05/25/2025 4:58:08 PM PDT by Noumenon (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. KTF)
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To: Honorary Serb

I took a graduate parasitology course in the 70s.
The instructor was an M.D. who came from
Walter Reed....what incredible stories...

He gave blue book exams. We were either given the scientific name or the common name of the organism and we had to write everything we knew about it.

Most difficult and most interesting class I ever had.


54 posted on 05/25/2025 4:58:31 PM PDT by Mrs.Z ("Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save." Ps 146:3)
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To: DoodleBob

Still have my HP-15C (it’s 40 years old now) and use it regularly. RPN forever!


55 posted on 05/25/2025 5:03:20 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: algore

My cousin’s husband was project manager for that HP hand held calculator, the HP39. I asked him why it was named the HP39 and he said that it had 39 keys!


56 posted on 05/25/2025 5:07:35 PM PDT by bennowens
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To: DoodleBob

You mean they will actually have to learn something and write intelligible sentences and paragraphs? The horror!


57 posted on 05/25/2025 5:09:44 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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To: DoodleBob

and big chief tablets and fat pencils for the first graders.


58 posted on 05/25/2025 5:10:31 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: Mariner

And why so many can’t make change.


I’ve seen 8th graders pull out a calculator to solve 7 x 4.


59 posted on 05/25/2025 5:13:57 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: DoodleBob

I just had a flashback.


60 posted on 05/25/2025 5:21:10 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (The judgement has been lifted. Thank you, Lord. (@FeistyFed on TS) 🐝.)
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