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It's Time to Stop Counting Illegal Aliens in the Census
Townhall ^ | May 09, 2025 | Katie Pavlich|

Posted on 05/11/2025 4:40:34 AM PDT by george76

During his first term, President Donald Trump issued an executive order directing the Census Bureau to add a question about citizenship status to the 2020 national survey.

There was good reason for this. The Census is used to count the population. Population numbers are then used to determine how many congressional seats are allocated to each state. Given illegal aliens aren’t citizens and ineligible to vote, they should not have representation in Congress and Democrats shouldn’t benefit from additional congressional seats based on an illegal population.

“If unauthorized immigrants were excluded from the apportionment count, California, Florida and Texas would each end up with one less congressional seat than they would have been awarded based on population change alone. California would lose two seats instead of one, Florida would gain one instead of two, and Texas would gain two instead of three, according to analysis based on projections of Census Bureau 2019 population estimates and the Center’s estimates of the unauthorized immigrant population,” Pew research details. “Alabama, Minnesota and Ohio would each hold onto a seat that they would have lost if apportionment were based only on total population change.”

“In addition to these states, 11 more would gain or lose seats based on population change alone, whether unauthorized immigrants are included or excluded. Five states would gain one seat each: Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon. Six states would lose one seat each: Illinois, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia,” Pew continues.

Democrats, whose congressional power is threatened by the citizenship question, sued in partnership with their leftist allies and the case made its way to the Supreme Court.

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“The court's majority said the government has the right to ask a citizenship question, but that it needs to properly justify changing the long-standing practice of the Census Bureau,” NBC News reported at the time about the 5-4 decision. “The decision makes it difficult for the Commerce Department to justify the question and make it part of the census before the forms have to be printed in only a few weeks. But it leaves the door open for the government to try again, and some legal experts believe the government could succeed.”

The Trump administration complied with the ruling, but didn’t let it pass without pushback or explanation.

“Data on the number of citizens and aliens in the country is needed to help us understand the effects of immigration on our country and to inform policymakers considering basic decisions about immigration policy. The Census Bureau has long maintained that citizenship data is one of the statistics that is ‘essential for agencies and policymakers setting and evaluating immigration policies and laws,’’’ Trump said, disagreeing with the Court’s ruling.

“Today, an accurate understanding of the number of citizens and the number of aliens in the country is central to any effort to reevaluate immigration policy. The United States has not fundamentally restructured its immigration system since 1965. I have explained many times that our outdated immigration laws no longer meet contemporary needs,” he continued. “My Administration is committed to modernizing immigration laws and policies, but the effort to undertake any fundamental reevaluation of immigration policy is hampered when we do not have the most complete data about the number of citizens and non-citizens in the country.”

Now that Trump is back in the White House for a second term, it’s time to try again for the 2030 Census. That work is already underway and started on January 20, 2025. Counting illegal aliens to gain political power through congressional seats is a form of cheating and it must be stopped.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alien; aliens; census; citizenship; illegal; illegalalien; illegalaliens; illegals
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To: Bob Ireland

“In other words: Congress must codify the issue.”

One would think that Republicans in congress would codify the issue based on self preservation.


21 posted on 05/11/2025 7:34:11 AM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: Ancesthntr

*asked, not eked.


22 posted on 05/11/2025 8:03:43 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: george76

A state has 1 million illegals and gains one representative because of that. Pres. Trump successfully removes all of them. The state keeps its extra representative until the next census in ten years.

How unfair is all that for the rest of us?


23 posted on 05/11/2025 8:11:47 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable anima)
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The mission of the census is to determine seats in the House of Representatives. If by current law non-citizens cannot vote for representatives in the House, why would they be counted in the census?


24 posted on 05/11/2025 8:44:41 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: george76

California has motor-voter voter registration - and illegals are allowed to get licenses in the state. Don’t tell me they aren’t getting ballots as well even though the state denies this is happening.

I believe the political landscape would be very different if illegals weren’t allowed to vote - also need to get rid of mail-in ballots except under very very limited circumstances and vote harvesting.

California is the blueprint for vote fraud.


25 posted on 05/11/2025 9:41:44 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: george76
If I could whisper in the ears of the founding fathers I'd say make it a census of voter eligible citizens for the purposes of determining how many congressional seats are allocated to each state, and a separate count of total people.

No counting slaves as 3/5 of a person.

Southern states can gain more representation by allowing freed slaves to vote, or enfranchising women. Or not. Their call.

26 posted on 05/11/2025 9:55:05 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats: fake news, fake presidents, fake beliefs, fake policies, fake protesters & fake voters!)
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To: Mr. N. Wolfe
***One would think that Republicans in congress would codify the issue based on self preservation***

Unhappily, many 'Republicans' may be Demo'Rats that have infiltrated for sinister reasons. There are a few seats where that is openly true. Republicans run things on an open honest agenda; 'Rats have become sinister, infiltrating education, media, unions, the judiciary - anywhere that they can undermine traditional American values.

Republicans are becoming the nice folks, get-along pals-y sort. They are losing. Speaker Mike Johnson appears to be of the latter. The track he is on attracted few voters last November and appears likely to fall short in the mid-terms next year. The House Dems have said that he is the best GOP Speaker they have ever had. Despite his promises, the House Repubs have done only minimal work on a budget... the result: all of the waste and fraud that Elon Musk's DOGE found is STILL in the budget.

We all know where most of that money 💰 is going. Hint: 🐀

27 posted on 05/11/2025 10:31:42 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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