Posted on 05/09/2025 5:17:42 PM PDT by T Ruth
I was a BSA Scoutmaster and founder of a successful troop. When we heard BSA had lost its morality in 2013 we tried to figure out a plan.
Then we heard that a new nationwide organization was being started using stronger Christian principles. They would have a convention in Nashville to give some details.
A friend and I joined 1200 others there.
That group is Trail Life USA. A Christian boys outdoor adventure association.
We jumped on board and became the first troop in our state. There are now about 1500 troops in all 50 states and over 60,000 members.
New troops are added weekly. God is blessing us. We stand for timeless principles and traditional biblical values.
Good to see you in the forum Steve.
My brother is an Eagle Scout and I made Life, the rank just before Eagle. But I wouldn’t make it to Eagle today because you now have to earn some sort of “wokeness” merit badge—”diversity studies” or something like that—to earn the rank of Eagle.
In the ‘60s, when the BSA asked to hold their meetings in our church, Dad (pastor) said absolutely not. He had a hinky feeling about the organization and “where it might go”. He was prescient in many ways.
The attitudes of homosexual adult males toward pre-teen boys are — what to say? Gay men are driven strongly by lust, and guess what they lust for? Those relationships are driven by the desires of the adults, not by the boys or by the organizations the involved groups belong to.
I made Life and my son made Eagle.
I was a merit badge counselor for an old time merit badge, carpentry.
No way I would have anything to do with scouting now in it’s current form.
And big, strapping farm lads, too. 17% of all workers in 1940 were working on farms and the work was heavy.
Today, it is 1.2% on farms with all the automation and the work isn’t as physically demanding as it was in 1940.
Bravo. Right move. Scouting, Boys and Girls, today in the USA is irrecoverably corrupted with wokeness. Look at the trends within Christian denominations/churches in the U.S. They are still headed down, for the most part. There is a glimmer of hope if you believe some of the articles out there regarding the males in Gen Z and Alpha. As Scouting America is currently configured, it is the board rooms of S&P 500 companies that guides SA’s National Executive Committee. And I have read nothing to make me believe that CEO’s like BlackRock’s Larry Fink are turning away from DEI/DIE/ESG policies. Scouting America’s volunteer training programs are based upon S&P500 corporate training programs. The debut of woke in BSA occurred in its Wood Badge for 2000 (in 2000) training program which included elements of diversity training. I continue to hope that alternative youth programs like Trail Life will grow, but I haven’t heard much evidence to support that.
At the very least, the military should not give people advanced rank on completing basic if they are an Eagle Scout, not because of the wokeness per se but because even before they really went woke the BSA watered down the award so Eagles no longer had the sort of outdoor and lifesaving skills the military was looking for.
Of course I do.
It isn’t that I don’t thing “Scouts” are somehow polluted by affiliation with the military. I would be in favor of it if the “Scouts” were some other organization.
It is that the military is polluted by affiliation with an organization as woke as “Scouts”.
I used to be in the Boy Scouts. They are dead to me now.
You too Kevin
I think this is garbage. This Tami needs to be fired. Hegseth has far more things to worry about than this issue and this idiot should know better than to waste his time with it. In order of meeting priorities this could be on his calendar on April 1, 2073.
It’s too late to revive a perverted corpse. It’s best to simply bury the body that has already started to rot.
There will be other organizations for boys that will rise up to replace what the Boy Scouts once were.
In this current situation, it would be good to recall a bit of history when BSA was tied to the military by the use of Fort AP Hill in VA for the quadrennial National Jamboree. The tie was severed when the nascent woke movement objected to the BSA trying to hold its traditional position so the wokesters pressured DoD to end the use of AP Hill with the attendant military logistics support. The Defense Department then became just another voice in the mob pushing for the disastrous course taken by BSA.
Thanks. I hear ya. Eagle Scouts became military leaders and captains of industry.
Not sure where any of that is today.
Now it’s time to rout women out of the military.
Agreed. We should create a Medical Corps for women who would want to serve in the military. We did that during WWII.
Trail Life is who they should associate with.
And no girls....
“Where were the cheap shooters when scouting was being sued left and right over its refusal to admit gays?”
Supporting Boy Scouts with financial contributions; serving the troop with transportation to camp, canoeing trips and sporting events; doing things an Eagle dad does. And encouraging the district’s leadership not to fold to liberal pressure.
Boy Scouts would be better off today with a membership of just 100,000 boys and honor than an organization aspiring to have three million dues paying scouts but no timeless values.
I regret they were able to take it away from us.
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