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Trump sidelines Netanyahu in Middle East policy as relations deteriorate
Israel Hayom ^ | 05-08-2025 | Ariel Kahana

Posted on 05/08/2025 4:46:46 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

Trump is furious about what he views as an attempt by Netanyahu and his team to pressure National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, who has since been dismissed from his position, toward military action in Iran. Netanyahu claimed in response to the publication of this matter in The Washington Post that he spoke with Waltz only once. However, Trump remained unconvinced.

The president's anger likely explains Israel's exclusion from both the announcement regarding the ceasefire with the Houthis and Israel's inclusion in the agreement. It's worth noting that even after Trump announced the agreement with the Houthis, Israeli representatives handling relations with the US were unable to obtain information from White House officials about developments for a full 24 hours. Beyond Israel's exclusion, Trump is not currently scheduled to visit Israel during his regional trip next week.

The disconnect between Trump and Netanyahu appears to be the backdrop for statements by the prime minister and Defense Minister Israel Katz over the past day, suggesting they are preparing for a scenario where Israel stands alone. When asked by his spokesman, "Can Israel fight alone against the Houthi threat?" Netanyahu responded that "the rule I have established is that Israel will defend itself by its own forces." On Thursday morning, Defense Minister Katz stated that "Israel must be able to defend itself by its own forces against any threat and any enemy. This was true facing many challenges in the past, and will also be true in the future."

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TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Hamas; Hezbollah; Iran; Israel; War on Terror; Yemen
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To: Lurker; BobL

You should look at some maps.

Not all bases are alike, or suited for long-range ops against (very) hardened targets.

There are also - likely insurmountable - poltical and airspace issues.

Not to mention how fkn IDIOTIC it would be for us to just start smashing a nation we’re not at war with.


41 posted on 05/08/2025 6:49:53 PM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington0 DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: Nextrush

And Judas wanted 30 pieces of silver.
But only briefly.


42 posted on 05/08/2025 6:58:24 PM PDT by BAN-ONE
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To: BobL

“ Are you SURE that we’d get their permission?”

Absolutely. Assuming, of course, that President Trump asked them at all.

L


43 posted on 05/08/2025 7:00:21 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: AAABEST

“ Not to mention how fkn IDIOTIC it would be for us to just start smashing a nation we’re not at war with.”

Flush out your headgear, Scooter. Iran has been at war with us since 1979.

L


44 posted on 05/08/2025 7:01:28 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: AAABEST

We get all kinds. Some here think we can run around the Middle East like a bull in a china shop. Not so easy considering that those countries have to live with Iran after we leave and thus I expect that most would prefer to at least remain neutral, rather than be complicit in what would be perceived as an unprovoked aggression against Iran.


45 posted on 05/08/2025 7:03:47 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Lurker

“Absolutely. Assuming, of course, that President Trump asked them at all.”

We’ll see...


46 posted on 05/08/2025 7:04:16 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Alberta's Child

The Houthis chose poorly and became the recipients of a message meant for Iran to reflect on.

Iran is getting defanged one way or another.


47 posted on 05/08/2025 7:25:45 PM PDT by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Agreed. And he’s also essentially given Hamas a get out of jail free card by his insistence on getting all the hostages returned. It’s a policy that has essentially stalled an end to the conflict.

I understand the desire to see all the remaining hostages returned, but sometimes you have to make hard choices. So when I hear all his tough talk then juxtapose it with his timidity in that regard, I find it irksome. And let’s not forget that it was his administration that was asleep at the wheel when October 7th happened. All in all, I’m not a big fan.


48 posted on 05/08/2025 7:47:03 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: All

Netanyahu was asleep at the switch when when October 7th
happened, reducing the vaunted Mossad to a paper tiger.

US aid to Israel-—approximately $4 billion US tax dollars a year-—
is provided as grants under the “US Foreign Military Financing” (FMF) program.

In October 2023, Joe Biden told us Israel had nearly six hundred (600) active
Foreign Military Financing (FMF) tabs, totaling around $24 billion owed to US taxpayers.

Israel has also historically been permitted to use FMF tax dollars to buy equipment from its
own thriving multiple defense firms—a benefit not granted to other US military aid recipients.

Israel chronically indicates it is “dependent” on the US——
so this “going it alone” stuff needs to be rigorously examined.

US aid accounts for a significant chunk of Israel’s defense hoard. Israel also has
undisclosed military products bought outside of the US Foreign Military Financing program.

In other instances, when Israel’s borrowed US funds came due,
Israel got the US Congress to convert the “loans” into “gifts.”


49 posted on 05/08/2025 11:08:40 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray...."Our Father, who art in heaven......" )
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To: All

Trump found out the hard way who exactly controls US foreign policy.

Trump is said to be furious about Netanyahu and Israeli collaborators colluding to interfere in Trump’s policy plans. Apparently Netanyahu and his boys pressured US National Security Advisor, Mike Waltz, to incite military action in Iran behind Trump’s back.

Netanyahu claimed in response thru The Washington Post that he spoke with Waltz “only once.”

However, Trump was not assuaged. Netanyahu admitting to “only once” showed his dark side and earned him a swift rebuke from Trump.


50 posted on 05/08/2025 11:25:07 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray...."Our Father, who art in heaven......" )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Article sounds like complete nonsense.


51 posted on 05/09/2025 12:36:50 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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To: BobL

No one except some allied terrorist would consider any aggression towards Iran by virtually any country as “unprovoked.”

They’ve sponsored terrorism and murdered civilians and dissidents almost everywhere. That is a lot of provoking.


52 posted on 05/09/2025 12:42:35 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I think that is STILL a sore spot with Trump.

He thought, they would have supported his notion that the election was rigged.


53 posted on 05/09/2025 2:26:55 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Leaning Right

Thank you.😊


54 posted on 05/09/2025 4:09:20 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! Re )
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To: bray
The State of Israel only exists because of The United States.
Separate fact from fiction.
55 posted on 05/09/2025 4:10:38 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! Re )
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To: piasa

“They’ve sponsored terrorism and murdered civilians and dissidents almost everywhere. That is a lot of provoking.”

For sure, but we’re talking millions of already-angry Sunnis that the royal families there have to answer to, at least to some extent.


56 posted on 05/09/2025 4:31:47 AM PDT by BobL
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