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Price Transparency and Competition: Put American patients first and drain the health care behemoth’s wasteful costs
New York Post ^ | 01/28/2025 | Steve Moore and Steve Forbes

Posted on 01/30/2025 3:22:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/30/2025 3:22:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The chart below shows how much faster health care (and college tuition costs) have exploded than any other sector of the economy over the past two decades.
2 posted on 01/30/2025 3:24:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Go to any doctor’s office or hospital. The staffing level is about 2X what you might expect. In the early 70s, our primary care doctor’s office was staffed by a receptionist and himself. Technology has (seemingly) not made them more productive.


3 posted on 01/30/2025 3:28:00 PM PST by rbg81 (=)
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To: SeekAndFind

Medical costs are absurd. I recently went to our local ER because a small hearing device got jammed deep in my ear canal. The doctor was able to remove the device easily with some special tweezers. My visit lasted 15 minutes. My insurance co-pay was $200, but the ER bill totaled $1430.


4 posted on 01/30/2025 3:36:40 PM PST by Restless
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To: SeekAndFind
The price of things goes up in proportion to how much paperwork is involved.

My husband went to the doctor the other day. Nothing had changed. He was married to the same person, lived at the same address, had the same insurances and was there about something that was a reoccurring problem for which they had treated him in the past. Not a thing had changed. But he still had to spend ten minutes filling out electronic forms to say that nothing had changed.

I remember a time when you went to the doctor and the nice lady at the front desk asked if anything had changed, you said no and that was it. She did not have to do any paperwork, you did not have to do any paperwork, it was all the same. Now they need two people at the front desk and at least two in the back to handle the paperwork for one nurse and one doctor.

We are drowning in administrators.

And those people cost money.

5 posted on 01/30/2025 3:55:19 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: SeekAndFind

ERs should stabilize and return to country of origin...


6 posted on 01/30/2025 4:01:21 PM PST by null and void (I hoped it was the Bee but it’s California.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Start making a list of WFA Waste Fraud Abuse
1) SS paying Capitation for dead not yet dead in the database.
2) State Medicaid paying Capitation for dead not yet dead in data base.
3) SS paying twice for the Same person who is in the data base as both Bill and William.
4) State Medicaid paying twice… for both Mary and Maria.
5) paying for druggie’s drugs.
6)
7)…
As the Senator said “What’s a few billion here and there?”
Suppose $500/mo per person. About 100 person person per month per congressional district district. 535@100@$500@12 months 🤔 per year for each type of waste. ( Many are mor than $500/mo.


7 posted on 01/30/2025 4:12:55 PM PST by spintreebob (ki .h )
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To: Restless

You paid for those who pay nothing.


8 posted on 01/30/2025 4:29:05 PM PST by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: Restless

By the way, even with a fairly serious cut (tendons showing) I got to wait 4 hrs in the ER before getting 13 staples.
Staff was busy with gunshots. Gang bangers don’t pay. The staples cost me about $300 ea.


9 posted on 01/30/2025 4:34:31 PM PST by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: rbg81

In the 1960s, my mom took me to a group practice with about five doctors and two office workers.


10 posted on 01/30/2025 4:39:17 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: null and void

The EMTALA might be changed so customers have to hand over upfront $200, a popular model of PC still selling at more the $300 new as listed by the Secretary of HHS, a popular model of cellphone still selling at least $250 new as listed by the Secretary of HHS, or a valid passport with at least a year on it, a valid driver’s license or valid state ID.

If the hospital has a pawn shop and it is open, then only $200 upfront need be accepted.


11 posted on 01/30/2025 4:51:10 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Restless

And if didn’t have Insurance I bet the bill would have only been $300. My blood Clot without Insurance cost me $2500 for EVERYTHING at the Hospital. The Insurance Price was $13,000 which I would have had to pay $7,000 deductible then 30% copay costing a total of $8800 WITH INSURANCE!!! They list Both Prices on their bills.


12 posted on 01/30/2025 4:58:47 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: SeekAndFind

Cut healthcare administrators by 85%, separate hospital costs from caregiver costs, institute sweeping reforms markedly limiting spurious lawsuits, allow physician run / caregiver run facilities to compete against hospitals - for starters.


13 posted on 01/30/2025 5:00:32 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: SeekAndFind

I have long recommended Medicare multiple pricing.

The provider would post his multiple on the door and that’s it.

He might also be allowed to post exceptions.

If Medicare would pay $200 and his multiple is 2, you would be billed $400. If your insurance covered 80% up to a multiple of 1.4, your insurance would pay 80% of $280 ($224) and you’d pay $176.


14 posted on 01/30/2025 5:02:57 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Hospitals could be converted to REITs. They would rent out space.

If the providers together can provide hospital level care to state standards, the place might be called a hospital.

These standards might require staggered morning and evening rush hour surgery start times (so a car crash victim can be operated on), 24-hour staffing of at least one operating room, a pathology lab, 24/7/365 imaging hours, 24/7/365 apothecary & blood banking, 24/7/365 blood analysis, at least one nursing wing, acceptance of state pricing guidelines (and appropriate state operating subsidies), etc.


15 posted on 01/30/2025 5:14:03 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

State garnishment limitations might be set aside by federal law so EMTALA care can get paid for.


16 posted on 01/30/2025 5:16:07 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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EMTALA care might get paid from Social Security accounts.

If your EMTALA care cost $4,000 and got paid from your Social Security account, the first $4,000 you might otherwise get from Social Security would already have been paid out to the hospital and its doctors.

If you are drawing from Social Security, the EMTALA amounts might get debited from your monthly Social Security over a 10-year period.

EMTALA care might be collected on in the same way as child support and student loans, but at a higher priority.


17 posted on 01/30/2025 5:23:48 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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The only way that can be done so that is not undone by creep or decree is to disband all Federal Healthcare agencies and remove the Federal Government from any connection to the medical field, including the Pharma companies. If the Civil Service employees cannot be fired then they should be shipped off to newly built offices in Northern Montana or on federal land in Nevada, offices that have no function; better to pay total drones than pay them while they destroy the medical system in the nation.


18 posted on 01/30/2025 5:42:29 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe -)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Not quite three years ago, I was talking to the wife of the surgeon who was going to do my reversal surgery and she told me and my wife that when both of them went to the medical school graduation (alumni), the hospital administrator grads well before the medical school grads.

Apparently this was a new thing and they were irked. Don’t blame them.

I don’t know much about medical schools.


19 posted on 01/30/2025 6:10:37 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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Gang bangers don’t pay.

Which, on the face of it, suggests that if gangbangers had to pay ER costs upfront, crime rates would fall. If illegals had to front medical costs, fewer would sneak across the border, etc., etc.

20 posted on 01/30/2025 6:51:57 PM PST by frog in a pot (Obama, Hillary, Biden & Harris each earning +48% of the pop vote presents more than election issues.)
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