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Trump message to Putin concerning Ukraine
Truth Social ^ | Jan 22, 2025 | President Trump

Posted on 01/22/2025 8:35:17 AM PST by McGruff

I’m not looking to hurt Russia. I love the Russian people, and always had a very good relationship with President Putin - and this despite the Radical Left’s Russia, Russia, Russia HOAX. We must never forget that Russia helped us win the Second World War, losing almost 60,000,000 lives in the process. All of that being said, I’m going to do Russia, whose Economy is failing, and President Putin, a very big FAVOR. Settle now, and STOP this ridiculous War! IT’S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. If we don’t make a “deal,” and soon, I have no other choice but to put high levels of Taxes, Tariffs, and Sanctions on anything being sold by Russia to the United States, and various other participating countries. Let’s get this war, which never would have started if I were President, over with! We can do it the easy way, or the hard way - and the easy way is always better. It’s time to “MAKE A DEAL.” NO MORE LIVES SHOULD BE LOST!!!

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: deal; delusionalzeepers; delusionalzeeping; russia; trump; ukraine; war
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1 posted on 01/22/2025 8:35:17 AM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

“60 million lives?”

I would think that should be an order of magnitude less.

That’s an incredible amount of deaths for them.


2 posted on 01/22/2025 8:38:53 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

He’s mixing up Stalin purges with combat losses of military and civilians. His heart’s in the right place.


3 posted on 01/22/2025 8:41:00 AM PST by vmpolesov
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To: McGruff

The easy way or the hard way?

Sounds like sabre rattling.


4 posted on 01/22/2025 8:41:03 AM PST by baclava
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To: baclava
Sounds like sabre rattling.

Trump knows well how to handle a Sword.


5 posted on 01/22/2025 8:47:45 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: ConservativeMind

President Trump does seem to have miscalculated, or maybe he includes civilian deaths from starvation, summary shootings by Nazis, concentration camps in Nazi-held territory, people whom Stalin executed, Gulag victims, disappeared people, etc.

but here’s an official estimate - referring to “military deaths” — 27 million.

either way, it’s a staggering amount of lives lost.

And while the USA and Russia will never be BFFs, maybe, at long last, we can recoup what Bush 1 peed away after President Reagan broke the Soviet Union: a cordial friendship with Russia.

We have so much more to gain by being friends than enemies. Even if we’re not BFFs.

the estimate is below:

The Soviet Union lost around 27 million people during the war, including 8.7 million military and 19 million civilians. This represents the most military deaths of any nation by a large margin. Germany sustained 5.3 million military losses, mostly on the Eastern Front and during the final battles in Germany


6 posted on 01/22/2025 8:48:15 AM PST by Old West Conservative
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To: baclava

Trump seems to like sabers. Doesn’t always use them in traditional ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgj34kKtNw

As sword dances go I like this better than Khachaturian’s.


7 posted on 01/22/2025 8:48:17 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: vmpolesov

No, he’s using a total of all deaths during WW II, not just in the USSR. The USSR lost about 24 million.


8 posted on 01/22/2025 8:48:33 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possiWe neve hear of gambling paying off $billioble.)
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To: McGruff

Sounds like Putin should stop arrogantly dismissing every peace suggestion, and actually work towards a deal.


9 posted on 01/22/2025 8:48:55 AM PST by canuck_conservative (Russia lies all the time)
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To: McGruff

Sounds like Putin should stop arrogantly dismissing every peace suggestion, and actually work towards a deal.


10 posted on 01/22/2025 8:48:55 AM PST by canuck_conservative (Russia lies all the time)
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To: ConservativeMind

He’s using a total of all deaths in WW II, not just the USSR.
The USSR lost about 24 million.


11 posted on 01/22/2025 8:49:52 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possiWe neve hear of gambling paying off $billioble.)
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To: vmpolesov

Time for a deal. It seems that Zelensky is a stumbling block at the moment. I heard that their are talks going on in the Middle East someplace between Russia and Ukraine. Lets get this meeting going between Putin and Trump—Brazil? Switzerland? Hungary? Any Place. Peace talks need to start and an end to the fighting.


12 posted on 01/22/2025 8:53:17 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: McGruff
 
 
Welp, he just made the first bargaining move, in public. That totally just put the ball into pooty-poot's court.
 
 

13 posted on 01/22/2025 8:54:24 AM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: baclava
The easy way or the hard way? Sounds like sabre rattling.

The 'sabre' being rattled, is economic sanctions, and those are easy to implement, though they'd be hard on those affected, including the Russian people and those that could not do trade with Russia. That kind of sabre is not deadly, but it would be hurtful.

The 'hard way' is that the Russian economy would suffer more than it's already suffering from the war; the easy way is to negotiate an end to the war.
14 posted on 01/22/2025 8:55:04 AM PST by adorno ( )
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To: laplata
He’s using a total of all deaths in WW II, not just the USSR. The USSR lost about 24 million.

And a lot of those "Russians" were Ukrainians. As a percentage, many more Ukrainians than Russians perished during the war.

15 posted on 01/22/2025 8:55:48 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ConservativeMind

order of magnitude? look it up.

he is high but you are way, way low.

in general folks are ignorant about just how catastrophic wwii was for the ussr. for almost anyone in the us alive today, it is conceptually unimaginable. between 1/6 and 1/8 of the population simply gone, with the worst in the western parts.

if you learn the correct est. death toll, do you really wonder why the red army parked in eastern europe and stayed?


16 posted on 01/22/2025 8:56:18 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: ConservativeMind

I probably close to being accurate. The Russians lost a ton of civilians along with their trooops. Their military strategy on the way back into Russia was brutal. Their savage offensives on the way back into Germany were just as bad.

When you are outgunned and “out Generaled” you have to rely on mass attacks with inferior equipment. That leads to a lot of losses.


17 posted on 01/22/2025 8:58:14 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I especially like the part about “Russia ... whose economy is failing”

That shows that Trump knows just how weak Putin’s hand really is ... despite the vast Russian propaganda effort to make us believe otherwise

Putin won’t like this ... lol


18 posted on 01/22/2025 9:00:00 AM PST by canuck_conservative (Russia lies all the time)
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To: Vermont Lt

I think deep down Stalin wanted more deaths, to use as a bargaining chip.

“We lost 20 million people, so we deserve Eastern Europe!”


19 posted on 01/22/2025 9:01:28 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Upon a bit of research, the military losses and casualties were about 20 million. Civilian losses were about another 20 million. So, 40 million total is a rough estimate. That’s a lot of folks.


20 posted on 01/22/2025 9:01:38 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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