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Vermont accused in lawsuit of tracking pregnant women considered unsuitable to be mothers
AOL ^ | 1/18/2025 | Landon Mion

Posted on 01/18/2025 7:24:22 AM PST by antidemoncrat

A lawsuit filed this week accuses Vermont’s child welfare agency of using baseless allegations about a pregnant woman's mental health to secretly investigate her and win custody of her daughter before the baby's birth.

(Excerpt) Read more at aol.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; vermont
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What would you expect from a state who has continue to elect a communist to congress since 2007 "Bernie Sanders ... United States Senator from Vermont since 2007"
1 posted on 01/18/2025 7:24:22 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: antidemoncrat

You might suppose at first that it’s a wild accusation, but I personally know someone it happened to, though not in VT.
If a state dept of child welfare is the accused, I would say it’s very likely true.
Even better odds if the baby is white.
The state knows better than you do, how to spend your money; they know better than you do how to raise children. They can take your money, and they can take your children.


2 posted on 01/18/2025 7:34:02 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: antidemoncrat

There’s a lot of people that shouldn’t be parents, but trying to decide it before they show incompetence draws a line. For the moms who are having their 8th (no exaggeration) child removed from custody due to abuse, drugs, etc, I have no issue with sterilization. But I have also seen both rich or poor family pour everything into their children to give then opportunity and the kids are successful now.


3 posted on 01/18/2025 7:36:45 AM PST by Marko413
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To: antidemoncrat

Folks,

This is an imperfect world. What would be the position if they knew there were problems and did nothing..........and the mother killed the child?

In a prior time, family, friends, neighbors, churches, local law enforcement filled in the gap instead of govt.

We can complain about govt or fill the gap.


4 posted on 01/18/2025 7:37:19 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: Buttons12

ALL women should answer the call and become mothers, even the screwed up cat ladies. How do they raise the child? It takes a village. Churches can step up and force upon them that God is not as evil as governments.


5 posted on 01/18/2025 7:37:41 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: antidemoncrat
In instances when the powers that be do not simply punish evil and reward good, (1 Peter 2:13,14) but call evil, good, and good, evil, (Isaiah 5:20) perverting what God has ordained as right for man, then principled dissent is justified, (Exodus 1:17; Acts 4:18-20) as well as exposing the evil. (Acts 16:37)


6 posted on 01/18/2025 7:46:45 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Very well said


7 posted on 01/18/2025 7:48:35 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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To: antidemoncrat

I’m not clicking over and there’s too little info in the excerpt to even discuss the pros and cons.

Having said this.... there are plenty of instances where the State should step in to deal with a dangerous mentally ill mother.


8 posted on 01/18/2025 7:51:59 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Man made Climate Change is Real. Cal. Officials responsible for the fires just proved it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I agree. There is not enough infirmation. It apparently started when the pregnant woman was observed acting erratically in a homeless shelter. Was she on drugs. Mentally impaired?
What did anyone in charge do? Did the woman remain in the homeless shelter the entire pregnancy? Was she receiving care during pregnancy?

Too many unknowns to say the state was totally wrong,


9 posted on 01/18/2025 8:06:24 AM PST by RWGinger (FJB)
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To: antidemoncrat

There used to be minimums for mom and dad to take junior home from the baby ward. You couldn’t be a drug addict and you needed to have a minimum of financial support for the child.


10 posted on 01/18/2025 8:20:42 AM PST by TalBlack (Time to use the Law and the Power. Good luck Mr. President.)
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To: antidemoncrat; PeterPrinciple; Marko413; Buttons12; Responsibility2nd
I think the phrase “trust but verify” applies here. In Oregon the LGBTQ+whatever agenda has moved to the head of the list. A couple from my son’s church was informed that based on a survey given to entering middle school children, their son could benefit from the LGBTQ+ club. They were called repeatedly and always refused. Finally, they asked if they could visit a club meeting and see the curriculum. The school answered no to both requests. The next call was from the State of Oregon expressing their concerns. The couple immediately quit their jobs and moved out of the state.

The same logic probably applies to women anticipating birth. I would expect our state to measure them by the latest social media standards. I often see the term ‘assigned at birth” as if the child comes out of the womb as a hermaphrodite creature and the attending physician must make a determination of sex using some undefined set of factors. This determination is only preliminary, and as a social construct, is subject to refinement into a variety of genders. Efforts to help children to live according to their self-evident anatomy is called “conversion therapy” and is considered bad. Indoctrination followed by brutal chemical treatment, and surgical actions to alter the natural self is called “gender affirming care” and is good.

11 posted on 01/18/2025 8:24:20 AM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: antidemoncrat

This was only exposed thanks to Biden recently passing the 28th Amendment


12 posted on 01/18/2025 8:36:53 AM PST by goo goo g'joob (When honest people say what's true, calmly and without embarrassment, they become powerful)
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Win custody before birth? Hmmmm...lemme guess: will she be forced to have an abortion in order to save the baby from “harm”? This *is* Vermont,after all...home of a million burned out hippies from the 1960s.
13 posted on 01/18/2025 8:37:30 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: antidemoncrat

The State is not precognitive and has no authority to punish people for possible future crimes.


14 posted on 01/18/2025 8:45:22 AM PST by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: antidemoncrat

I knew of a woman, a neighbor, sad to say, who was pregnant with twins at the time horrific sexual abuse, including incest, of her other two kids came to light.

DSS had the twins taken right from the hospital. She never got the chance to take them home and abuse them as well. Bad situation. I don’t know what ever happened to the other two kids.

That said, I do have a problem with 99% of what social services does, but in this case, it was definitely the right move.


15 posted on 01/18/2025 8:56:45 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: PeterPrinciple

A PERSON NEEDS A LICENSE TO DO ALMOST EVERYTHING-—BUT NOT TO RAISE KIDS.


16 posted on 01/18/2025 9:24:34 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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A PERSON NEEDS A LICENSE TO DO ALMOST EVERYTHING

No, a person DOES NOT NEED a "license" to do anything. Ever.

Governments impose "licensing" "requirements" in order to exert power over We the People.

17 posted on 01/18/2025 9:29:11 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Retain Mike
based on a survey given to entering middle school children, their son could benefit from the LGBTQ+ club.

Kids should be instructed to never, ever answer such surveys. Nothing good will come from it.

18 posted on 01/18/2025 9:35:39 AM PST by Ford4000
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To: DIRTYSECRET
ALL women should answer the call and become mothers, even the screwed up cat ladies. How do they raise the child? It takes a village.

No pets here, but I won't marry a village. IMO it takes a man ready to be a husband and father and there aren't many of them around.

19 posted on 01/18/2025 10:10:26 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: ridesthemiles

A PERSON NEEDS A LICENSE TO DO ALMOST EVERYTHING-—BUT NOT TO RAISE KIDS.


not sure of your point, are you proposing licenses to raise kids?


20 posted on 01/18/2025 10:14:10 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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