Posted on 12/18/2024 6:03:49 AM PST by artichokegrower
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It has happened before.
California is more than welcome to build their train, if the idea of connecting 2 s-hole cities together turns them on. But people living in Kansas SHOULD NOT be paying for it.
There will be electric planes within a decade.
Use the infrastructure already built for an access restricted high-speed highway.
I’m sure the Sacramento Bee is completely objective on this subject.
The connected people probably enjoyed the $13 billion they got.
The mere thought of depending on mass rail transit in California's criminal homeless la la land is absurd.
BART has become a dangerous , crime and drug infested open sewer due to all of California's pathological problems
Have high speed internet.
Work from home. Buy local. Clean up local.
They could have bought passenger cars and offered luxury overnight ‘Pullman’ sleeper car service for less.
That $13 billion would have covered the cost of the equipment and 100 years of service subsidies.
You throw good money after bad.
Throwing good money after bad?
Don’t be stupid CA. You want to do it, you pay for it. Uncle Sam’s got better things to do
Makes me miss Willie Green
I don’t think that moving homosexuals and the mentally ill from one place to another quickly in Californication is a real worthwhile investment...
Ain’t Communism wonderful at solving 21st century problems with 19th century solutions.
The Sacramento Bee probably hates scrapping an unbuilt railroad, but probably loves Biden selling border wall material to keep Trump from picking up where he left off.
Wasn’t that supposed to be in service by now?........
Working from home should be illegal according to half of the folks posting on FR.
In a state that has rolling blackouts already due to the strain on the power grid, how are they going to find the electricity for all their “clean energy” mandates? They act like electricity is unlimited, free and environmentally friendly. Instead it is expensive and destructive to the environment the way they are generating it.
Even with the immigrant invasions in Europe, the areas around the train stations are still relatively safe during the day and are very well connected to other transit, which is also safe...and that’s Europe. Japan is simply safe all around, so that country has cities worth visiting.
High speed rail is a JOKE in the US for many reasons, but a big one is the fact that most riders will try to get out of their destination city as fast as possible.
So, as a bare minimum, CLEAN UP THE CITIES first to give people a reason to actually go to those cities...and then you can try to make a case for high-speed rail (which still should be done at the state/local level).
And, by the way, does that 2 hr. 40 min. time between LA and SF include the time to get to a station, go through security, and then get to whatever destination you have (as probably 98% of those using it will have to find a way to their final destination)? I didn’t think so...so in the end the 6 to 8 hours of driving will pretty much match the time that the train takes, so they shove it on the time-saving claim.
If they want people to stop driving their cars, how about adding bus lanes to I-5, and then subsidizing bus travel, as that will be FAR CHEAPER than taking a train and far more flexible as to where they operate (for example, buses could drop people off at car rental stations at airports, something that trains cannot do).
In 2011, then Governor Rick Scott killed $2B in federal funds to start high speed rail between Orlando and Tampa. There were caveats to the funds. The state had to piney up the billions to finish it, and if it did not meet ridership goals after year 1, then the state had to pay the feds back. When Scott said no…California took the funding, and what has it produced in the 13 years since? Some bridge abutments in a desert with no rail. Since 2011, a private rail system was completed and operational between Miami and Orlando (Brightline). Any rail project needs to be funded privately, and people in other states should not have their tax dollars spent on a California rail to nowhere.
Invoke the sunk cost fallacy more bad money after more bad money so you don’t waste the money already spent. Only economic question is whether there is positive value to be had from the additional investment including paying back the additional investment.
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