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Jury deadlocked in Daniel Penny trial; judge to decide how to move forward
FOX 5 NY ^

Posted on 12/06/2024 10:02:08 AM PST by bryan999

NEW YORK - The jury in the Daniel Penny trial told the judge they couldn’t reach a unanimous verdict on the first charge of second-degree manslaughter, prompting the judge to issue an Allen charge urging them to make every effort to agree. One of the jurors was seen rolling his eyes as the instructions were read.

The judge reiterated the responsibility of the jurors to reach a decision, explaining that "deliberations were not intended to be easy," but that they should "harmonize" their views and reach a decision.

The defense has emphasized that the jury cannot deliberate on the second charge without resolving the first, as Penny cannot be convicted of both.

"It would be a crazy result to have a hung jury because they can't move onto the second count," prosecutor Dafna Yoran was heard telling the judge.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox5ny.com ...


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1 posted on 12/06/2024 10:02:08 AM PST by bryan999
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Nothing crazy about that. S.O.P. The prosecutor must see the handwriting on the wall.

I'd be interested to know the racial and sex makeup of the jury.

2 posted on 12/06/2024 10:03:29 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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Yeah, they’re going to do everything to push pressure on this jury, because it’s going to be harder and harder to convict as time goes on.


3 posted on 12/06/2024 10:04:50 AM PST by struggle
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To: bryan999

Throw it out!!


4 posted on 12/06/2024 10:06:21 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: bryan999

When I read that they did not reach a verdict yesterday and were dismissed for the day, I figured they were hung.


5 posted on 12/06/2024 10:06:35 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: bryan999

Just heard on Fox the jury wants to know what a “Reasonable person” means..the judge is going to force this jury to convict Penny the writing is on the wall..ANYONE with an IQ above 3 knows that Penny is a freakin HERO, he saved EVERYONE on that damn train that morning..but since Penny is white and the perp was black its automatic racism gotta convict Penny of something otherwise the blacks are gonna riot


6 posted on 12/06/2024 10:07:18 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: bryan999
Every New York City employee and politician needs to have their government car service ended and instead be forced to commute by subway.

Let some lunatic they've unleashed on the public attack them.

7 posted on 12/06/2024 10:07:52 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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“...they should “harmonize” their views...”

Can you imagine how it must feel to be a juror told by a judge that you must “harmonize your views” with a fellow juror you’ve concluded has lost all touch with reality?


8 posted on 12/06/2024 10:10:54 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: struggle
Hopefully there are some responsible, moral men left somewhere in New York, and one or two of them are on this jury.

I had the foolishness trained out of me in law school, but most women are not fit to sit in judgment in matters of life and death.

9 posted on 12/06/2024 10:12:10 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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"It would be a crazy result to have a hung jury because they can't move onto the second count," prosecutor Dafna Yoran was heard telling the judge.

You should have thought about that before you prosecuted the case, you wretched dog.

10 posted on 12/06/2024 10:12:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Well, maybe I'm a little rough around the edges; inside a little hollow.” -- Tom Petty, “Rebels”)
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To: one guy in new jersey; bryan999
That's just standard, boilerplate language in the "Allen" or "Dynamite" charge given to a hung jury.

It is generally qualified by "without surrendering your judgment." Although for all I know, the trial judge took that language out.

Which would make a dandy enumeration of error on appeal. Most criminal convictions that are reversed fail for charging or evidentiary errors. Or both.

11 posted on 12/06/2024 10:13:56 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I had the foolishness trained out of me in law school ...

You must have attended a l-o-n-g time ago. I was disappointed to learn that two (2!) of the jurors were lawyers.

12 posted on 12/06/2024 10:22:10 AM PST by gloryblaze
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Uh, dismiss the case? Sounds like a good plan to me.


13 posted on 12/06/2024 10:22:16 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: bryan999

Free the hero Daniel Penny! And make the NYC subways safe!


14 posted on 12/06/2024 10:27:38 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

>I had the foolishness trained out of me in law school, but most women are not fit to sit in judgment in matters of life and death.

Yeah, no logic, all emotion. I have a wife and three daughters.


15 posted on 12/06/2024 10:28:30 AM PST by struggle
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To: AnAmericanMother

“I’d be interested to know the racial and sex makeup of the jury.”

We won’t know that until ‘after’ the verdict. There is obviously at least one holdout standing up to the cretins for the truth (the chokehold didn’t kill Neely, he still had a pulse), vs. their lies.

I see a new day of patriots exhibiting new-found courage, and standing up and speaking out against the radical left and their BS, for a refreshing change. Trump’s election mandate has many such trickle-down after-effects, I suspect... that we will happily witness as time goes on. Even “if” this case ends up in a conviction, more folks will be encouraged to show resistance to the leftist tyranny and insanity that we have previously had to endure. At least, that’s the hope.


16 posted on 12/06/2024 10:32:02 AM PST by Danie_2023
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To: AnAmericanMother

thx A


17 posted on 12/06/2024 10:53:43 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: AnAmericanMother

Crooked NY prosecutor and probably judge, Who knew ?

Especially the ‘judge’ telling them to get back in there and come up with a unanimous verdict !!


18 posted on 12/06/2024 10:58:16 AM PST by A strike (death to taggers)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I’m going to guess they’ll be of the lefty female and black persuasion.


19 posted on 12/06/2024 11:35:02 AM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

No matter what instruction the judge gives, you hang strong at Not Guilty. You only have to do it a few days. You cannot fold your arms and refuse to argue or they will remove you for failure to deliberate.

But just argue. “I don’t believe that witness”, “I think that evidence was suspect”, “I don’t see they proved X, Y, or Z” etc etc..

Just argue and be brave. Jury nullification ain’t just for OJ.


20 posted on 12/06/2024 11:37:30 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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