Oakland considers whether to drop ShotSpotter gunshot detection system

KTVU ^ | October 8, 2024 | Amber Lee

[artichokegrower]

The city of Oakland has used ShotSpotter for almost 20 years, technology that alerts police to potential gunshots.

The contract with the gunshot detection system is now up for renewal.

[artichokegrower]

” That actually creates public safety issues," Galvis said. "Police will then rush into a neighborhood, into a community and zero in on a neighborhood, hyper vigilant. We've already seen what happens in traffic stops where too many times, we've seen black and brown motorists who've been murdered at routine traffic stops."

If the black and brown folks would quit shooting each other this wouldn’t be an issue

[Resolute Conservative]

How about not renewing Oakland?

[The Louiswu]

That’s LIbs for you, take a system that works to some extent and drop it for some silly pc nonsense reason

[dfwgator]

Now you know why the A’s, Warriors and Raiders got the hell out of there.

[CatOwner]

20 years ago, Oakland had the Raiders (NFL), Warriors (NBA), and the A’s (MLB). Now, they have no pro sports team. Without the revenue those teams generated for the city, they can’t afford much.

[TheDon]

The system is clearly racist.
98% of the time it indicates non-white neighborhoods.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

In other words, the anti-gun left doesn’t want illegal gunfire investigated.

[Dahoser]

LOL. Beat me to it!

[monkeyshine]

They should get rid of it. It’s totally racist. 90% of what it detects are black and brown gripped guns. Only 10% have ivory grips.

[DUMBGRUNT]

University of Chicago economist Allen Sanderson, a longtime critic of subsidized stadiums. Rather than spending massive amounts on a stadium deal to keep a team in town, Sanderson says you’d get a bigger payoff by taking the money, converting it $20 bills, renting an aircraft, and then throwing “a billion dollars from the helicopter” while hovering over a city.

According to most economic research, cities typically see a very small net gain from having a professional sports team, with the majority of the economic impact being largely offset by the cost of building and maintaining a stadium, meaning the actual “gain” for a city is often minimal or even negative; most spending by fans at games is simply substituting spending from other local entertainment options, leading to little new net revenue for the city.

“Stanford economist Roger Noll compares stadiums to pyramids in ancient Egypt, structures built to honor dead pharaohs but paid for by the sweat and toil of living, breathing people. Noll and others point out that entertainment spending is generally a fixed pie and that local residents substitute one option for another. Teams thus don’t create new spending; they take it from other businesses, most of whom are actually paying property and other taxes.”

[CitizenUSA]

It also wouldn’t hurt if black and brown motorists followed traffic laws and, more importantly, didn’t resist following police commands when stopped.

Anyone who watches the various live PD shows sees the same pattern followed over and over. Gets pulled over for a traffic violation, doesn’t have a driver’s license or proof of insurance, has visible signs of being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, refuses to follow police requests, has outstanding warrants or the car is full of illegal drugs, and goes to jail.

[hanamizu]

In other words, the anti-gun left doesn’t want illegal gunfire investigated.

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They wouldn’t have problem with it if it reported illegal gunfire in white neighborhoods. As has been pointed out, most, virtually all reports come from minority neighborhoods thus proving that the system itself is racist.

[Zathras]

Probably like car alarms.
No one pays attention to them anymore.

[Dr. Sivana]

. Noll and others point out that entertainment spending is generally a fixed pie and that local residents substitute one option for another.

I agree with the general thrust of the argument, and L.A. was wide to not subsidize (except for road access) the Rams and Chargers. BUT, when you have an NFL team, you get the money from out of state fans, too. The folks in Wisconsin, Dallas, SF and Pittsburgh will travel to see their teams.

[Tom Tetroxide]

They’ll make the excuse it’s racist and get rid of it.

[Thank You Rush]

20 years ago, Oakland had the Raiders (NFL), Warriors (NBA), and the A’s (MLB)

I guess you know that Kamala is HEARTBROKEN about those teams leaving Oakland. If anyone asked her what they play, I don’t think she’d know the answer! “They play ball” and THEN giggles!

[T-Bird45]

“ No one pays attention to them anymore.”

I figured Oakland was angling for a volume discount on each report.

[Vermont Lt]

Knowing where the shootings happen, and when they happen, is only useful if your police department is going to do something about it.

[Salman]

It saves lives by getting the ambulance there quicker. At least that's supposed to be one of the selling points. And it really did in Chicago.

But it also alerts the police, and the police arrest too many black people.

[Stosh]

The (current) idiot who’s now mayor of Chicago just dumped ShotSpotter earlier in the month; within a couple of days of the termination of the system they found in an alley the dead body of a woman who had been shot at least several hours earlier. Had her shooting been detected when it happened (which is likely with an active ShotSpotter system) she might have had a chance of being saved by EMS, but no one can know for sure.

Additional details available at a “Second City Cop” entry earlier in the month.