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Attor­ney Gen­er­al Ken Pax­ton Demands Cit­i­zen­ship Data From Biden-Har­ris Admin­is­tra­tion To Inves­ti­gate Poten­tial Nonci­t­i­zen Voters
KEN PAXTON ^ | OCT 7 2024 | KEN PAXTON

Posted on 10/07/2024 7:47:51 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sent a letter demanding that the federal government fulfill its legal obligations by providing any information it possesses regarding the citizenship status of people who may be illegally registered to vote in Texas.

On September 18, Attorney General Paxton urged the Texas Secretary of State to request data from the federal government that would enable Texas to determine the citizenship status of certain registered voters without a State of Texas-issued driver’s license or identification card. To expedite the process of voter eligibility verification, Attorney General Paxton requested a list of the approximately 450,000 voters whose citizenship status has never been checked from the Texas Secretary of State so he could send it to the federal government himself.

While it is a crime for noncitizens to register to vote, federal law has been construed by the courts to restrict states from requiring proof of citizenship as a prerequisite for registration. However, the same federal laws also place obligations on the federal government to help states investigate and identify potential noncitizens on voter rolls. Attorney General Paxton’s request letter formally triggers these obligations.

“I demand full cooperation from the federal government to ensure that any noncitizens remaining on Texas’s voter registration rolls are identified,” said Attorney General Paxton. “The Biden-Harris Administration is legally obligated to assist States in doing so, and it is imperative that we use every tool available to uphold the integrity of our elections.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; citizenship; elections; fraud; status; texas; voter
I am pleased to see that TEXAS is using their REAL ID Driver's License and ID Cards to compare with the Voter Registration Lists.

Unfortunately, this is another case of a politicians "too little, too late'" syndrome.

Paxton and the TX Secretary of State could have done this a year ago.

Now with 30 days to the election, the Biden corruptocrats will either tell Paxton that they do not have the data or they are not required to give him the data or they are too busy bringing new illegals into to Texas to have time to give him the data.

I like Paxton, but 'strongly worded letters' are not sufficient. The State AG's need to be bringing the FEDS into court every day and force the FEDS to testify under oath.

1 posted on 10/07/2024 7:47:51 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Here is the link to the letter sent to:

Ur M Jaddou
Director
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
5900 Capital Gateway Drive
Camp Springs, Maryland 20746
via email Ur.M.Jaddou@uscis.dhs.gov

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/OAG%20letter%20to%20USCIS%20FINAL.pdf?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=


2 posted on 10/07/2024 7:49:51 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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“While it is a crime for noncitizens to register to vote, federal law has been construed by the courts to restrict states from requiring proof of citizenship as a prerequisite for registration”

It’s called the “Honor System” and it’s a huge part of why we’re becoming a Third World country.

Meanwhile the Leftists (along with their shills here) run around the world starting wars, all to distract us from what REALLY COUNTS, such as the integrity of our voting system.


3 posted on 10/07/2024 7:55:57 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“could have done this a year ago.”

That’s what is so absolutely infuriating! Why the hell didn’t all the red states start this THREE YEARS AGO? A month before the election is utterly insane. The FedGov will simply ignore his “demand” and ultimately nothing will happen, no heads will roll, and we’ll merrily continue down the path to full communism.

Why, it’s almost like we have a Uniparty.


4 posted on 10/07/2024 7:57:39 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (May the soy boys, feminazis, and alphabet weirdos choke on the toxic fumes of our masculinity)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

While bringing this up sooner would have been nice (I’m convinced that the entire Republican leadership thinks the country still votes on Election Day), my advice to Paxton would be to simply INVALIDATE all 450,000 registrations unless and until the voters, or the feds, come forward with citizenship information.


5 posted on 10/07/2024 8:32:26 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

“””While bringing this up sooner would have been nice (I’m convinced that the entire Republican leadership thinks the country still votes on Election Day), my advice to Paxton would be to simply INVALIDATE all 450,000 registrations unless and until the voters, or the feds, come forward with citizenship information.”””


If the FEDS do not respond by Oct 17th, Paxton should order the election supervisors in each Texas county to give PROVISIONAL BALLOTS to these 450,000 voter registrants. That way the 450,000 get to vote, but their vote will not be counted until they prove their citizenship.

Texas needs to up the ante if the FEDS, as expected, do not comply with the request by Oct 17th.


6 posted on 10/07/2024 8:43:29 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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he should ask for kamala’s birth records and her parents immigration forms.

that’s when you find out kamala was born to tow foreign citizens who hadn’t started immigrating.

her claims to the 14th are iffy but any claim she’s a natural born citizen are just rubbish.


7 posted on 10/07/2024 8:58:38 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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I guess I’m a little confused. The election process is not run by the feds. It is run by each individual state as long as they stay within the lowest level of the constitution.

And each state can decide to require ID to vote. Thirty-six states have laws requesting or requiring voters to show some form of identification at the polls at this time. So Paxton is already using Texas law to do the election. He can require ID of what ever is needed within Texas which can be a voter registration card. And how they determine that card is the state’s responsibility.

The feds have no idea who crossed the line getting into the country so their only real part of the election process is to count and confirm what the states send up with electoral college votes. And if the tallies do not reach the levels need to elect, the senate elects the POTUS and the house elects the VPOTUS. I guess I don’t understand what he is doing unless it is to prove a point about illegal immigration. But the feds can’t answer his question. That process is up to the individual states.

wy69


8 posted on 10/07/2024 9:04:44 AM PDT by whitney69
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I suggest you read-—

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/OAG%20letter%20to%20USCIS%20FINAL.pdf?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=


9 posted on 10/07/2024 9:19:02 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: sten
"he should ask for kamala’s birth records and her parents immigration forms.

that’s when you find out kamala was born to tow foreign citizens who hadn’t started immigrating.

her claims to the 14th are iffy but any claim she’s a natural born citizen are just rubbish."

Documents are available here: Kamala Harris Dossier

10 posted on 10/07/2024 9:28:21 AM PDT by research99
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Texas has about 18 million Registered Voters.

When Texas used their REAL ID data, they found 450,000 registrants who did not have citizenship proof.

This tells me that REAL ID has become a very effective way to clean up the voter rolls.

Now, the other states need to do the same.


11 posted on 10/07/2024 12:36:46 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

‘“could have done this a year ago.”

That’s what is so absolutely infuriating! Why the hell didn’t all the red states start this THREE YEARS AGO? A month before the election is utterly insane. The FedGov will simply ignore his “demand” and ultimately nothing will happen, no heads will roll, and we’ll merrily continue down the path to full communism.

Why, it’s almost like we have a Uniparty.’
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A state AG can demand all they like from the federal government, but the feds are under no obligation to comply or even answer the request.


12 posted on 10/07/2024 1:47:30 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

But it all seems to be back at the state as the action of determining the valid registration lies with the state:

§20504. Simultaneous application for voter registration and application for motor vehicle driver’s license
(a) In general
(1) Each State motor vehicle driver’s license application (including any renewal application) submitted to the appropriate State motor vehicle authority under State law shall serve as an application for voter registration with respect to elections for Federal office unless the applicant fails to sign the voter registration application.

(c) Forms and procedures
(1) Each State shall include a voter registration application form for elections for Federal office as part of an application for a State motor vehicle driver’s license.

So if the illegal fails to sign the application form, he will be registered for federal elections just by applying for a driver’s license as it is part of the package and the state is required to chase the info. Paxton is digging in the wrong place.

The feds do not do an election nor do they register people to vote. Tack that on to the feds having no information on any of the flown in, snuck in, or walked in, they couldn’t even fathom a number for Texas to let vote in their part of the process. They can only use the entry point info that doesn’t cover anywhere near what the need as they have released millions into the country that could be in any state. And with states not using ID they could easily vote more than once, vote in numerous locations or even states, or be the walking dead.

And that’s my point. Only the state can control it and the feds are impotent to help.

wy69


13 posted on 10/07/2024 1:55:54 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: Bob Wills is still the king

He is trying to get them to enforce their own federal laws!

Besides, every state should have started aggressive efforts to purge the rolls 3-1/2 years ago.


14 posted on 10/07/2024 2:28:13 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (May the soy boys, feminazis, and alphabet weirdos choke on the toxic fumes of our masculinity)
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To: whitney69

Actually, it’s the House that selects the President, and the Senate the Vice President, in the event that no one gets 270 electoral votes. In particular, each State has a House delegation (their House members) who will, by a simple majority, choose from the candidates who come first and second in the electoral college. So, if Trump has the support of the Ohio delegation (he will), that’s one State. Trump and Harris have to get 26 States to win. In the Senate, all 100 Senators get to vote for Vice-President, with the winner a simple majority - Vance, as a sitting Senator, gets to vote (for himself). Harris, as sitting Vice-President, does NOT get to break ties (by voting for herself). If Trump gets stopped at 25 or fewer States, and Harris the same, and any of the RINO Senators vote for Walz, it’s entirely possible that at noon, 20 January 2025, it is Walz who will be sworn in as Vice-President AND acting President. Even if Trump gets 26 State delegations, he could still be stuck with Walz as Vice-President, with impeachment proceedings incoming.

So, it’s critical for both Trump and Vance to get to 270. Note that unfaithful electors have happened before. 1972, Virginia elector Roger McBride voted Libertarian instead of Nixon. In 2016, several electors did not vote for Hilliary.


15 posted on 10/07/2024 4:44:26 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Good triumphs when good people take action.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter; All
Thank you for referencing that article Presbyterian Reporter.

"While it is a crime for noncitizens to register to vote, federal law has been construed by the courts to restrict states from requiring proof of citizenship as a prerequisite for registration [??? emphasis added]."


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

The federal law prohibiting non-citizens from voting is a deliberate, uniparty Trojan Horse that makes it easier for illegal aliens to get away with illegally voting imo.

But before we look at previous material on this issue, probably the biggest clue that constitutional drafters gave the power to decide voter qualifications uniquely to the states, which justifies AG Paxton's demand for citizenship data imo, is the Constitution's Article I, Section 2, Clause 1 (1.2.1).

"Article I, Section 2, Clause 1: The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature [emphasis added]."

Note that state voter qualifications had originally been limited to electing House representatives because that is the only voting power that constitutional drafters gave to ordinary citizens, citizens now having the 17th Amendment (17A) power to vote for federal senators.

On the other hand, citizens still have no express power to vote for POTUS. The fact that we think that we have right to vote for POTUS amounts to political party smoke and mirrors, probably intended to deceive voters into thinking that they control who is in the Oval Office imo.

But so what if we aren't constitutionally protected to vote for POTUS? After all, all that our power to vote in constitutionally limited power (hint) federal government elections basically wins for us is the right to complain about high cost of postage stamps and slow mail service, the US Postal Service being one of the very few powers that constitutional drafters gave to the feds to dictate peacetime domestic policy.

In other words, most federal domestic policy is now based on state powers, and uniquely associated state revenues, that the very corrupt, post-17A ratification lawmakers that voters who have probably never really studied the federal government's constitutionally limited powers (another hint) keep electing and reelecting to office (caveat emptor; let the buyer beware).

More specifically, career federal lawmakers steal citizens' wallets by abuse of Congress's 16th Amendment powers (16A; direct taxes) by establishing unconstitutional federal social taxing and spending programs that they promised to unsuspecting voters on campaign trail.

Getting back to illegal aliens illegally voting, consider Biden Administration propaganda from previous thread ...

Biden Admin Dismisses Noncitizen Voting Because It’s ‘Already Illegal’ (Just Like Shoplifting And Drunk Driving) (9.4.24)

Regarding the deceptive (imo), "already illegal" law that the OBiden Administration is claiming makes it illegal for illegal aliens to vote, Democratic and Republican Trump supporters need to be aware of disturbing wording in this Trojan Horse law that has wrongly been approved by all three branches of the deep state federal government.

Democratic and Republican Trump supporters need to question why career lawmakers passed the law that that we're hearing about (scroll to the bottom of the referenced page of course) that seems to have a “hole” in it like Trump's border wall, smoking gun wording that is arguably a loophole that makes it easier for illegal immigrants to get way with illegally voting imo.

"(3) the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States."

Contrast this unconstitutional (imo) provision in the law with the fact that women citizens had to fight long and hard to win their suffrage (right to vote), evidenced by the 19th Amendment (19A).

"19th Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation."

In fact, note that when Virginia Minor, a pioneer of 19A, argued that her citizenship gave her the right to vote under 14th Amendment's Equal Protections Clause, the Supreme Court clarified in Minor v. Happersett (Minor) that since women didn't have express constitutional voting protections before 14A was ratified, they didn't have such protections after it was ratified either, Minor living in a "wrong" state.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphases added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

But more importantly, the Court based its decision against Minor partly on the Constitution's 1.2.1 above, evidenced by the following excerpt from Minor case opinion.

"The members of the House of Representatives are to be chosen by the people of the States, and the electors in each State must have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislature." —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

Again, this elite Democratic and RINO unconstitutional, pro-illegal alien voting loophole is a slap in the face to women citizen voters who ultimately had fight for a constitutional amendment to win their right to vote imo.

What's even worse is the compromised (imo) Supreme Court has already officially shrugged off this alien-supporting loophole.

The Court's misguided decision (imo) concerning Arizona case noted, do institutionally indoctrinated Supreme Court justices possibly not know that the post-Civil War congressional record shows that lawmakers were concerned that renegade states who allowed illegal aliens to vote would be wrongly nullifying the Constitution's "Uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause," which elite Democrats are now wrongly trying to do imo.

In fact, Section 2 of the 14th Amendment (14A), that amendment ratified shortly after the excerpts above appeared in the congressional record, is a penalty for states where ballot box fraud has occurred.

Note the zero tolerance "hair triggers" in that section that should be a warning for any state thinking about rigging an election, triggers that Pence and the J6 Congress wrongly ignored imo when they voted to accept OBiden's electoral votes in 2020 despite allegations of vote-counting problems.

Allowing illegal aliens to vote not only wrong nullifies the "Uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause," but also wrongly weakens the constitutionally enumerated voting protections of all qualified citizen voters.

With Section 2 in mind, also consider that if this were a better world, the feds would be reminding all states before an election that the feds will be darkening the doorway of any state to investigate allegations of possible violations of constitutional voting integrity protections.

And thanks to desperate elite Democrats once again allegedly moving the goalposts, we have new evidence that ordinary qualified citizen voters can identify with that ballot box fraud is probably taking place.

More specifically, elite Democrats recently unilaterally threw out 14+ million primary votes for nominee Biden, replacing him with Harris who has never had popular support for being POTUS, this action by Democrats a violation of Section 2 imo.

So while post-Civil War lawmakers were concerned about renegade states who might try to nullify the "Uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause" by allowing illegals to vote, all three branches of the corrupt federal government have arguably joined renegade states who are now effectively wrongly trying to nullify that clause by using illegal aliens to rig elections imo.

Since Congress and likewise renegade states have repeatedly proven that they are enemies of the people imo, it is now up to Democratic and Republican Trump supporters to effectively "impeach and remove" ALL (exceptions?) state and federal lawmakers and executives in November.

In fact, it's up to us Trump supporters to take the first MAJOR step in draining the swamp by supporting hopeful Trump 47 with a new, Constitution-respecting Congress, new state lawmakers too, not only so that he will not be a lame duck president from the first day of his second term, but will support him to quickly finish draining the swamp.

Supporting Trump to finish draining the swamp includes supporting him to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by leading the states to repeal 16&17A, effectively "seceding" ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government by doing so.

Finally, let's not allow the anti-Trump media try to fade our memories of what we witnessed on July 13.


16 posted on 10/07/2024 4:46:21 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: whitney69

Any clerk filling in drivers license information can check the box that says this person is a citizen (or not a citizen). Then the system, in order to correct the lying clerk, has to detect that the licensee is, in fact, not a citizen. In some States, the clerks have been instructed to mark all licensees as citizens when the forms are entered into the system. That way, it’s not the licensee who is the criminal, but the paperwork may be destroyed, making it impossible where the false information came from.

In Ohio, when we renew a drivers license, if we don’t have information proving citizenship on hand (passport or birth certificate) PLUS address (two recent utility bills from two different utilities), we get a different driver’s license, that cannot be used to board a plane. However, the passport required does not have to be a U.S. passport, as far as I know. And not having the airline-ready driver’s license doesn’t prove non-citizenship, just that the required documents were not on hand. I didn’t have two utility bills on paper to prove address on my person at license renewal.


17 posted on 10/07/2024 4:57:42 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Good triumphs when good people take action.)
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To: bIlluminati

“Then the system, in order to correct the lying clerk, has to detect that the licensee...”

And that’s where the system falls apart as 19 of the states do not require ID.It is a state level problem so asking the feds to provide something they don’t have is kind off a waste of time. And as the feds allowed millions to come into the country, the way they did it left those people unaccountable. So the burden of the legit vote falls on the states.

This site uncovers the states that do not require ID to vote so it would be simple to get by. And you’ll notice they are all liberal states with big electorale numbers.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identification_laws_by_state

wy69


18 posted on 10/08/2024 3:52:29 AM PDT by whitney69
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