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Abolish the Death Penalty. It's Unjust and Outdated
Newsweek ^ | Sep 30, 2024

Posted on 09/30/2024 5:05:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway

On September 24, the state of Missouri executed a potentially innocent man. Marcellus Williams was convicted in 2001 for the crime of murder. Yet over time, with the help of the Innocence Project, doubts had arisen about his guilt and the legitimacy of the legal process used against him. In any case, the merest shred of doubt should have been enough to spare Williams' life.

Yet the truth of the matter is that Williams' life should have never been on the line in the first place.

The death penalty in America is a policy past its sell date; it's time for it to end. It does not solve or prevent crime, or bind up the emotional wounds of victims or families. It is punishment for punishment's sake; a kind of performative vengeance.

Advocates for the death penalty say it represents justice. But in reality they are simply describing the feelings human beings have when they see pain inflicted on someone they believe deserves it. Hundreds of years ago public torture and executions elicited these same feelings.

Most Americans today would deem public spectacles in which individuals are hanged, drawn, and quartered to be immoral or barbaric. Yet for some reason many draw a moral distinction between the modern method of death by lethal injection, and methods of the past.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
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To: Beowulf9

actually he didn’t kill anyone.


41 posted on 09/30/2024 6:24:01 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: simpson96

Mr. Kennedy looks like he just exited el tren de aragua.


42 posted on 09/30/2024 6:32:52 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (May the soy boys, feminazis, and alphabet weirdos choke on the toxic fumes of our masculinity)
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To: nickcarraway
But in reality they are simply describing the feelings human beings have when they see pain inflicted on someone they believe deserves it.

Trying to make it sound like those who want justice are as cold blooded as the one who kills their victim. I’m not buying it.

43 posted on 09/30/2024 6:45:36 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Gene Eric

Right. It isn’t a deterrent because they wait 20 years or more to carry it out, if they ever do. If they carried it out swiftly after a fair trial, it WOULD deter violent criminals, and if it didn’t, we wouldn’t have to pay for their three squares a day.


44 posted on 09/30/2024 6:52:23 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: bdfromlv

“Donald Jerome Shea, also known as “Shorty” (September 18, 1933 – August 26, 1969), was a Hollywood stuntman, actor and murder victim. The location of his body was discovered in 1977, eight years after his death. Manson Family leader Charles Manson and members “Clem” Grogan and Bruce M. Davis were eventually convicted of murdering Shea. Tex Watson was a possible participant in the murder, but was never charged”.

But...who knows?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Shea


45 posted on 09/30/2024 7:43:42 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: nickcarraway

Just redefine it as a postatal abortion. Then the libs won’t make a peep!


46 posted on 09/30/2024 7:51:41 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: vikingd00d
The recidivism rate of the executed is rather low.

When I was taking Comp 1 in College we had to grade each other's papers.

This one *IDIOT* wrote that the death penalty was bad because people who were given the death sentence were more likely to murder again.

47 posted on 09/30/2024 8:18:02 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: nickcarraway
The states should have a moratorium on the death penalty.

The federal government should reserve the death penalty for terrorists like Osama bin Laden.

48 posted on 09/30/2024 8:20:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: roving

Marcellus Williams was as guilty as sin. Those who suggest otherwise are either il-informed, or liars


49 posted on 09/30/2024 8:43:33 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/10/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: nickcarraway

You can complain all you want but the truth is :

IT STOPS PEOPLE FROM MURDERING OTHER PEOPLE.

The concept is lost on the Left/socialist/marxist/ communists mind and heart and thought and allegiance ..THAT’S HOW SICK THEY ARE.


50 posted on 09/30/2024 8:51:39 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: nickcarraway
"It does not solve or prevent crime, or bind up the emotional wounds of victims or families."

Incarceration doesn't do any of that. Neither does community service. I guess we should just let them go... but that doesn't meet his arbitrary and idiotic standards. What next, Solomon?

51 posted on 09/30/2024 8:58:11 PM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: nickcarraway

Potentially innocent people don’t belong incarcerated. It means there’s doubt about guilt, and if new evidence exists of the person’s innocents, then a new trial is in order.

Unjust is whrn there is corruption, and law isn’t obeyed. At the federal level, a person on trial is judged by a jury of hìs/her peers. The goveŕnment doesn’t proclaim guilt, or determine whether the guilty one receives the death penalty, or a life sentence. The jury of ones peers does. The litmus test is extremely extensive, the paperwork is huge. And then, the guilty has an appeals process to work through.

I have no idea what this idiot is trying to prove, but he’s definitely a dumba$$.

He doesn’t have a clue how survivors feel because if he did, he might say something different..IF he was a reasonable person and not a dumba$$.


52 posted on 09/30/2024 9:00:34 PM PDT by PrairieLady2 (USA: Land of the free, Because of the Brave.)
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To: nickcarraway

needs to be expanded and implemented within a day of sentencing!


53 posted on 09/30/2024 9:25:17 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: nickcarraway

executed a potentially innocent man

We kill 1 million annually....by their parents

Let’s start with them since it is so easy, even a court case is unnecessary


54 posted on 09/30/2024 9:38:14 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: nickcarraway

Fraud denial.


55 posted on 09/30/2024 9:38:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: nickcarraway
In any case, the merest shred of doubt should have been enough to spare Williams' life.

No, the legal standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt."

Regards,

56 posted on 09/30/2024 10:30:38 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Flag_This
"It does not solve or prevent crime [...]

That's actually incorrect.

Executing the perp guarantees that he will never commit another heinous crime.

Regards,

57 posted on 09/30/2024 10:32:46 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Respectfully, I disagree.

States should be allowed to have the death penalty, if they choose. For one thing, it can be used as leverage. For example: the Green River Killer agreed to disclose the locations of his missing victims as part of a plea bargain, where he was spared the death penalty and received a sentence of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
Second, the death penalty prevents future murders from being committed by that same person. Murderers in prison have killed guards and other prisoners while in prison, and some have gone out and killed again after their release from prison. Also, some crimes are particularly heinous, and the death penalty should be available to be used in those cases.


59 posted on 09/30/2024 11:23:35 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (Vim vi repellere licet)
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To: nickcarraway

Bet he supports killing innocent babies though.


60 posted on 10/01/2024 4:16:52 AM PDT by pas
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