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Rumors of Treason: Kadyrov's Troops Accused of Allowing Ukrainian Forces to Advance
Dagens.com (UK) via MSN ^ | August 11, 2024 | Kathrine Frich

Posted on 08/11/2024 7:03:04 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

In recent weeks, reports have emerged from Russia suggesting a dramatic shift in allegiances involving Ramzan Kadyrov's Chechen forces.

Military bloggers and analysts are abuzz with claims that Kadyrov’s troops have betrayed Russia and struck a covert agreement with Ukraine, raising serious questions about the loyalty and actions of these units, according to Ziare.

According to military bloggers known for their "Z" commentary, Kadyrov's Akhmat unit allegedly backstabbed Russian forces by deliberately avoiding confrontation with Ukrainian troops during an offensive in the Kursk region.

A former Wagner mercenary, who goes by the name Alex Parker, has shared on his Telegram page that Kadyrov's forces were well-informed about the Ukrainian advance and intentionally allowed them to proceed.

The deal was reportedly facilitated through an intermediary, Hussein Djambetov, a former Ukrainian soldier who later returned to Chechnya.

Russian military propagandists have expressed outrage, accusing Kadyrov of betraying Russia by orchestrating a secret non-aggression pact with Ukraine.

This alleged treachery has fueled claims that Kadyrov’s men abandoned their positions and avoided combat rather than defending the Russian frontier.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 0dailytroll; britishintel; chechen; fakenews; garbage; kadyrov; kathrinefrich; putin; spamspamspam; tabloids; treachery; zeeperporn
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To: Kazan

We will see how this ages, few days ago I was told the “incursion “ was smashed

Humm


21 posted on 08/11/2024 9:11:49 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: JoSixChip

Paging marcusmaximus...


22 posted on 08/11/2024 9:29:16 AM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay (Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding...)
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To: Timber Rattler
https://fakti.bg/en/world/903779-the-attack-on-the-kursk-region-may-be-the-beginning-of-the-military-end-of-ukraine

Attack by the armed forces of Ukraine in the region of Kursk could be the beginning of the military end for Kiev, which could lead to greater territorial losses for Ukraine. This opinion was expressed by the military expert of the European Council on Foreign Relations, Gustav Gressel, in an interview with Der Spiegel magazine.

„If Ukraine seeks to hold territory for a few months, it will lead to military costs that can hardly be covered. The expansion of the front line is profitable above all for Russia. “It has more weapons, ammunition and people that it can use on a wider front,” says the Austrian specialist. According to him, the effect of surprise threatens to quickly turn against Ukraine.

The expert noted that Moscow could send additional forces to the Kursk region, which would first contain the attacks of the Ukrainian armed forces, and then tire them out. He pointed out that in the meantime, Kiev is exhausting its resources in Donbas, and if the front collapses, then Ukraine will have to one way or another leave the territories in the Kursk region and transfer them again to the east. “There, this could lead to greater territorial losses,”, noted Gressel.

The specialist recalled that in Germany the camp of Sarah Wagenknecht, who opposes the supply of weapons to Kiev, enjoys significant popularity. “Ukraine may seem like an unreliable daredevil. Berlin and Washington would withdraw their support. “The maneuvers in the Kursk region could be the beginning of the military end for Ukraine,”, Gressel said. "Ukraine is in a difficult situation," he said. “Due to the insignificant military assistance of its partners, it cannot win the war in purely traditional ways, so it tries to resort to risky operations. But in this way, he risks completely losing the support of the West”, the expert believes.

23 posted on 08/11/2024 10:07:31 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
--- "...Gustav Gressel, in an interview with Der Spiegel magazine."

»Das Kursk-Manöver könnte das militärische Ende der Ukraine einleiten«

"For the first time, regular Ukrainian troops have advanced into Russian territory near Kursk. Military expert Gustav C. Gressel explains what Ukraine is aiming to achieve with the operation - and why the attack could be dangerous for it."

Der Spiegel has a paywall, such that the Bulgarian site was "passing through" the news/opinion from Germany's magazine.

Here is a YouTube comment by Dr. Gressel.

Fighting in the Death Zone: Insights into Ukraine's Frontline Warfare from Dr. Gustav Gressel

The YouTube channel is from a German group, https://european-resilience.org/, resident in Berlin. What is interesting is that these "voices" are willing to reveal themselves in terms of location and such as a true contact address and phone, all thee while so many YouTube channels' "content creators" submerge any information about themselves. Propaganda on all sides should be examined more deeply.

24 posted on 08/11/2024 10:23:52 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Timber Rattler
It could be that the Kadyrovites were reluctant to fight a division of Ukrainian Army all by themselves. They needed the Russians there but they're all in Ukraine.

The Kadyrovites are thugs, they're useful as muscle to intimidate. But they're not used to fighting in a war. They're known as "TikTok Warriors" for a reason.

25 posted on 08/11/2024 10:31:25 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: caww

Russia alone is responsible and if you think anything else than you need brain surgery.


26 posted on 08/11/2024 10:32:15 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

I support my people in my area. I’m Albertan. I have no interest on what they do over there. It saddens me to see how people are so easily misled. If you can’t see how the west set this up you probably think DC is your friend and the southern border is secure.


27 posted on 08/11/2024 10:39:44 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

No, the southern border is not secure and DC is not out friend. The west did not set this up. Putin set it up with his unjust and aggressive invasion of Ukraine. PUtin has said that Alaska is “russias own”. He has also said that russia should restore his countries borders to the Soviet borders and frankly beyond. This is a predatory and agressive dictator who is a threat to the rest of the world most of whom chooses to live in peace. He needs to be dealt with.


28 posted on 08/11/2024 12:20:40 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

Well, whatever you’re huffing, I’d put it down.

I would put the msm down too.

This is far more complicated than what you just said. Ask yourself who supports Ukraine and why. That’s the hill you want to die on? If they put a move on Poland or another country that’s in an alliance (that frankly shouldn’t exist now) then have a talk. In the meantime, none of this is my business and we’re fighting our own battle. Where’s all the interest and stories and passion about the about to blow sky high civil war in the UK? Who cares about Ukraine. It was a sick cesspool when I was there before and it’s a sick cesspool now.

P.s. The camp I’ve been staying at a lot in the last month is fully staffed by ukes. Are you in interested in what they say? I’ll tell you what they say. They all blame the west and zelensky for their issues there. All of them have said the exact same thing. Exact.

It’s only plebs in the west that think they know something when in actuality they know nothing. You probably think Bosnian was justified too. I did two tours there. Ask me what I know.

Cheers buddy.


29 posted on 08/11/2024 12:45:27 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Well the people living in Ukraine are telling us something different that is why they are putting up such a fight. Just about the rest of the modern civilized world is acting in the interest of a free Ukraine because they think Russia is a common danger to all of us. I don’t know if your Uke friends actually exist so I can’t rely on what they say.


30 posted on 08/11/2024 1:58:40 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

They’re not my friends. They fled and they’re working at a camp for oil and gas stuff. There’s no ukes left to fight. They’ve pulled so many into the grinder, it’s a sin really.

Either way, not my circus, there’s far enough problems here. It’s a shame people don’t put the same effort into that.


31 posted on 08/11/2024 3:43:36 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Timber Rattler
Now the blame game begins. The Russian MOD didn't know. The Chechens knew. The Chechens fled. The Chechens took casualties. The Chechens could have fought. They fought back and were overwhelmed. The Russian MOD missed the signs of a build up.

Its the "Firehose of Fiction" model in action. When Russia has a problem, their shills and paid actors flood the information space with social media sewage so no one outside can see clearly. We can see this with the disjointed and over the top claims of the more popular pro-Russian shills. They haven't been given their new narratives, so they go off on their own.

We can see they are acting this way and draw some conclusions. The same finger pointing between Russian factions happened during Kharkiv, Kherson, and the Wagner uprising. When Russians blaming each other, it means there is no unifying pro-Russian narrative to use. Which means, as of now, Russia has not implemented any substantial counter to the Kursk operation.

32 posted on 08/11/2024 6:29:14 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 🛇 CCCP 2.0 🛇)
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