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To: wita
 


1. God is not a liar and thus cannot deceive nor the Son who is like the Father.   
Satan is - and is the Father of lies.

2. Joseph on their appearance was immediately delivered from the darkness and evil that held him bound.   If Satan puts it on you, he can surely take it off.

3. Joseph also noted their brightness and glory defied all description.   And yet artists have taken liberties with trying to illustrate it.

4. An angel of light cannot replicate the glory of God. Moses easily recognized the difference when tempted of the devil, exclaiming “where is thy glory, that I should worship thee?”   True, but since JS had never SEEN the goG he was easily fooled.  I know about Moses, and JS sure was no Moses!

5. Joseph was called by name, and told to listen to “My Beloved Son”.  

6. Joseph had no difficulty knowing with whom he was speaking.    SO?  (Refer to #1)  If JS knew - then why the cryptic language?

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!


Some folks are so dense they are unable to “see” the forest for the trees.


68 posted on 08/01/2024 3:36:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Satan is - and is the Father of lies.

...and that has exactly what to do with the appearance of the Savior and his father to Joseph Smith?

If Satan puts it on you, he can surely take it off.

That comment makes even less sense than the first one.

And yet artists have taken liberties with trying to illustrate it.

Artists aren’t in the business of portraying Godly glory.

Speaking of things that don’t make sense.

True, but since JS had never SEEN the goG he was easily fooled.

TWO personages that appeared to Joseph in what he perceived as Godly glory, stated their case and followed it up with appropriate visits and education plus the restoration of the early Church and close to two hundred years of successful progress, three additional scriptures that at the very minimum prove the validity of the Holy Bible, and all you can come up with is Joseph is easily fooled. Pardon me but that is truly laughable.

SO? (Refer to #1) If JS knew - then why the cryptic language?

So, why ask me? Oh, Joseph isn’t around. That leaves you with only one source for an answer, unless you value man’s interpretation of Joseph to God’s.


69 posted on 08/04/2024 3:11:39 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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