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Who is Responsible for Verifying Presidential Eligibility?
The Post & Email Newspaper ^ | 26 Jul 2024 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 07/26/2024 7:59:03 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner

(Jul. 26, 2024) — As posted Tuesday by the “X” account @Kancel Kamala, on August 20, 2020, then-Alabama Democratic Party Chairman Christopher John England sent a “Certification” to then-Alabama Secretary of State John H. Merrill naming the party’s 2020 nominees for President and Vice President, respectively, as “Joseph R. Biden” and “Kamala D. Harris.”

The 18-page set of documents remains available at the Alabama Secretary of State’s website.

As part of the “certification” process, each nominee provided a signed and notarized “Consent to Nomination of the Democratic Party” and “affirmed” he or she was constitutionally qualified for the position sought on November 3, 2020 (pp. 8 and 9 below).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 226; certification; foreigninfluences; kamalaharris; kamalatruth; naturalborncitizen; nbckooks; nbctroll; presidenteligibility
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Quotable Quotes re Citizenship Kinds, Allegiance, and The Presidential Eligibility Clause in The United States Constitution: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2024/06/14/quotable-quotes-re-citizenship-kinds-allegiance-and-the-presidential-eligibility-clause-in-the-united-states-constitution/


61 posted on 07/27/2024 12:23:35 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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To: CDR Kerchner

“Harris is constitutionally ineligible to be VPOTUS (12th Amendment) or POTUS (Article 2). She is not — nor can she ever be — a natural born citizen, the highest standard of citizenship mandated by the Constitution for the president and commander-in-chief. The Founding Fathers wanted a higher standard of citizenship for the POTUS because they did not want any competing allegiances with foreign governments.”


62 posted on 07/27/2024 12:30:14 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right

Article 2 of the constitution
See Above

“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”


63 posted on 07/27/2024 12:34:57 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right

The 14th Amendment:
See above

“Granting citizenship and civil rights to formerly enslaved individuals and their descendants.
Establishing the principle of equal protection under the law, which has been used to challenge discriminatory laws and policies.
Providing a foundation for subsequent civil rights legislation, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.”

The 14th Amendment was
ratified to confir
citizenship to slaves,
being in the “jurisdiction”
thereof.
It gets fuzzy in the case
a slave owner begat
children, as they would
be as considered as “natural”
born.
All slaves at the time of the
14th amendments passing
became “Naturalized”,
not “Natural Born” except
as mentioned.


64 posted on 07/27/2024 12:53:01 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right

From the 12 Amendment:

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States


65 posted on 07/27/2024 1:00:11 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: CDR Kerchner

In answere to your question
I believe it’s the speaker
and minority leader of
the House of Representatives
that certify a candidates
eligability, as they’re
also responsible for
certifying primary and
general election ballots.
I remember Ms. Pelosy
falsifying Obama’s
eligability.


66 posted on 07/27/2024 1:15:40 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

HOWARD DEAN, HEAD OF DNC, NEVER PROPERLY VETTED OBAMA.

WHEN RUMORS STARTED, PELOSI SIGNED A “CERTIFICATION” THAT HE WAS ELIGIBLE.

BOTH ACTIONS WERE FRAUD, IMO, and BOTH SHOULD BE CHARGED AS SUCH.

IT WAS FURTHER TANGLED UP WITH A TOTALLY PHONY “BIRTH CERTIFICATE”.

WHOEVER CREATED THAT DOCUMENT OUT OF THIN AIR DIDN’T DO VERY GOOD RESEARCH:

THE HOSPITAL NAMED ON HIS “BC” IS THE NAME OF A NEW ENTITY CREATED WHEN 2 HOSPITALS MERGED——5-6 YEARS AFTER HE WAS BORN. IMPOSSIBLE FOR THAT TO BE HIS “PLACE OF BIRTH”.


67 posted on 07/27/2024 3:22:10 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Responsibility2nd

THERE IS “CITIZEN” AND THERE IS “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”.

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.


68 posted on 07/27/2024 3:23:16 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: ridesthemiles

Makes you think the hapless voters love being conned!


69 posted on 07/27/2024 3:24:07 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: null and void

IMO-—WE ALL HAVE STANDING.

THIS IS THE USA——NOT a place where the highest position in the country should have other influences.


70 posted on 07/27/2024 3:30:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: drypowder

THANK YOU

THANK YOU

I didn’t know the name of the form she signed


71 posted on 07/27/2024 3:31:40 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: roving

NO-—HOWARD DEAN & PELOSI FACILITATED THAT FOR HIM.

OBAMA DID NOTHING-—ESPECIALLY COME FORWARD & TELL THE TRUTH.

HIS BIRTH CERT “HOSPITAL” DIDN’T EXIST IN 1961.

IT IS THE NAME OF A MERGER OF 2 OLDER HOSPITALS THAT HAPPENED 5-6 YEARS AFTER 1961.

IMPOSSIBLE FOR BARRY TO HAVE BEEN BORN THERE.

ALSO-—HIS FATHER WAS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN-—HE WAS A CITIZEN OF KENYA.


72 posted on 07/27/2024 3:36:20 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: CDR Kerchner

American military personnel can have their kids anywhere-—but they still can be NATURAL born. They still have to have both parents be USA citizens before child is born.

Military postings are an exception....BUT the ONLY exception


73 posted on 07/27/2024 3:38:54 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Give it to the gin soaked pelousi she vouched for the a##hat Obama


74 posted on 07/27/2024 3:41:28 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: CDR Kerchner
Article briefly mentions and dismisses the 14th Amendment:

(from the article)The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, is often incorrectly cited as defining “natural born Citizen,” but the term appears nowhere in its text. Rather, it “granted citizenship and equal civil and legal rights to African Americans and slaves who had been emancipated after the American Civil War, including them under the umbrella phrase ‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States,’” Encyclopedia Britannica explains.

Proponents of the definition requiring parental U.S. citizenship in addition to birth in the United States cite Rep. John Bingham, considered the main author of the 14th Amendment, and Section 212 of Emmerich de Vattel’s “The Law of Nations,” which states, “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”

The LLI https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen says:

A natural born citizen refers to someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth, and did not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life. Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright citizenship. One can be a citizen while not being a natural born citizen if, for example, that person gained citizenship through the process of naturalization.

The case they cite United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/169/649/ is about a Chinese man born in the US to two non-citizens and whether he was a citizen or not. He was obviously not a presidential candidate, The case basically declares that every citizen is either naturalized or natural-born but immediately makes exceptions for children born to diplomats. This case also notes the 1790 law that made McCain a natural-born citizen even though he was born overseas.

The 1898 case does address the qualifications for the presidency.

75 posted on 07/27/2024 4:15:38 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer

Cornell. Yeah; I care what these commies think. Not.


76 posted on 07/27/2024 4:20:56 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's not as if Biden has the nuclear codes or anything. 😳)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
I’m only respecting the Framers original intent

The Framer's intent was simply to distinguish between natural-born and citizens for 14 years at the time of the ratification. Both allowed to be president.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Even at that time there was a dichotomy of naturalized and natural-born. That was cemented in the 1898 case. Naturalized is disqualified with the exception of the 14 years of residency before ratification.

77 posted on 07/27/2024 4:30:36 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: ridesthemiles
THERE IS “CITIZEN” AND THERE IS “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

There is naturalized citizen and natural-born citizen according to the 1898 case. That means there are only two types of citizens and not three as alleged by the OP.

78 posted on 07/27/2024 4:33:17 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: MayflowerMadam
You should still care what the Supreme Court said in 1898 which they (and I) linked. There are only two types of citizens, naturalized and natural-born.
79 posted on 07/27/2024 4:34:54 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: CDR Kerchner
“I love Venn diagrams. It’s just something about those three circles and the analysis about where there is the intersection, right?”
80 posted on 07/27/2024 4:37:09 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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