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Video of Illinois deputy shooting Black woman sparks outrage
Reuters (on their own site) ^ | July 23, 2024 | Tyler Clifford

Posted on 07/23/2024 6:03:05 AM PDT by Salman

July 22 (Reuters) - The Illinois State Police released video on Monday of a sheriff's deputy killing a woman in her home this month, revealing details of a shooting that some likened to high-profile cases in which law enforcement has used excessive force on Black Americans.

Sean Grayson, a white deputy who was dismissed from the Sangamon County Sheriff's Office and charged with three counts of first-degree murder last week, fired three shots at the woman, Sonya Massey, according to the indictment. He also faces a charge of aggravated battery and one of official misconduct.

"Sonya’s death at the hands of a police officer reminds us that all too often Black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not," President Joe Biden said in a statement on Monday.

"I commend the actions taken by the Springfield State’s Attorney’s office. While we wait for the case to be prosecuted, let us pray to comfort the grieving," he said, calling on lawmakers to pass a stalled police reform bill named after George Floyd, who was choked to death by a white officer in 2020.

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To: yldstrk

Good advice. Similar to dealing with the medical establishment.


21 posted on 07/23/2024 6:43:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Leaning Right

It could be racial, or it could not be racial. We really don’t know. But it is outrageous.


22 posted on 07/23/2024 6:44:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Salman

Is the cop in jail?


23 posted on 07/23/2024 6:44:57 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: Regulator

It was an AI recording.


24 posted on 07/23/2024 6:45:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: yldstrk

> Is the cop in jail? <

Oh, yes. And the charge is first degree murder, which I’m guessing will be reduced to second degree murder as part of a plea deal.

Decades in prison either way. (Quite appropriate.)


25 posted on 07/23/2024 6:52:49 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Salman
Worked for multiple police agencies in a short period of time?

Dr. Clarissa Cole on After Hours AM The Criminal Code Inspecting Killer Cop Gerard Schaefer, April 17, 2019

(Start at 1:18:31)

Dr. Cole: He had an epiphany; he was going to become a cop!

Eric Olsen: Ha ha ha what??? Uh, so, wait a minute, he was told by a former employer, if you ever, you better never get a job where you have influence over others, an authority position, or I’ll do whatever it takes to stop you. So wouldn’t becoming a cop kinda give him the ultimate authority over people?

Dr. Cole: Well, you know, lucky for all these other people, he kept moving from county to county so they weren’t really, uh, yeah, it is the ultimate authority he was just moving around so people wouldn’t know what he was doing, and I think getting out of the teaching profession they didn’t know what he was going to do.

He eventually applied to the Broward County Police Unit; he was rejected, though, because he failed the psychological test.

Eric Olsen: Oh that’s it he’s out of the career. No career for him He’s obviously unstable…

Dr. Cole: One, you know what? One would think so, and I actually used to perform these psych tests, and oh, do I have stories! You would think that it would even, it’s supposed to, let me tell you how it’s supposed to work, it’s supposed to prevent you from getting a job as a police officer or a prison guard.

Eric Olsen: Sure.

Dr. Cole: Does that always occur?

Eric Olsen: I would hope that it does.

Dr. Cole: No, no, no, I would say 50% of the time.

Eric Olsen: What?

Dr. Cole: It’s supposed to be a be a requirement, a REQUIREMENT, if you don’t pass, if you are not psychologically fit, you are not supposed to become a police officer or a prison guard. Does that actually preclude you from becoming a police officer even as long ago as what, 2005? No, I was doing them in 2005. Half of the people I rejected still became a cop.

Eric Olsen: How does that happen? How do they get around this?

Dr. Cole: Oh God there so many ways

Eric Olsen: Is it a buddy, a dad?

Dr. Cole: My son, he’s the son of my buddy, his dad is a cop, he has to be a cop, he’s going to work in this county and we’re really understaffed, we need people, we know he failed, but it’s OK. The amount of excuses I heard to employ people.

And that’s the thing, just so the general public is aware, it’s difficult to fail, it’s difficult to fail one of these psychological…

Eric Olsen: What would cause one…

Dr. Cole: It’s not like the bar is so darned high that no one could pass, it’s nothing LIKE that, this test is just to find out is this person basically psychologically stable, are they non-sadistic, do they not have criminal or punishing tendencies or narcissistic tendencies themselves. Basically you’re trying to weed out anybody that has a like God complex; I’m judge, jury, and executioner. You want to get those people out of there. You’re trying to get people out of there that are just psychiatrically so unstable that they can’t control their emotions so, maybe some sort of bipolar thing going on or somebody that absolutely clearly has a personality disorder, like narcissistic personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. They are not

Eric Olsen: Checks and balances. Checks and balances to protect the general public from somebody that would not do well in that position.

Dr. Cole: And I was very, yeah, I was extremely, forgiving on these psychological tests even when somebody would sort of hit sort of some of those marks on the tests we would give, I would ask in interviews I would ask a ton of questions just to be very, very sure that this person was indeed failing the psychological exam, and I did not fail that many people, but the people I failed, please believe me that it was for extremely good reasons, extremely good reasons, and half of them became cops anyway.

Eric Olsen: So when they‘d leave would they go to a different state and do it?

Dr. Cole: Hah no, they would get hired by different a county, like a couple minutes over usually. Somebody knew them and “Now let’s pick them up.” “No, no, no, he has really strong sadistic tendencies and fantasies of rape and murder, you really shouldn’t hire him” and they would. And that’s exactly, I hope it’s different that was like I said, this was in 2005, it scared the heck out of me and I said I would never have a career doing that I don’t want to know that those people are becoming officers.

Eric Olsen: Tell me it’s in the minority, though, that this happens.

Dr. Cole: It’s in the minority that people fail, the majority of people passed. But those that do fail, like I said it’s for very good reason, but half of them. Half of them got picked up. So no, it’s not a minority a full 50% got hired.

Eric Olsen: That is truly a scary number out there that 50% of...

Dr. Cole: It’s a small sample, a small sample that was in a place that was economically depressed and needed officers…

(End at 1:23:29)

26 posted on 07/23/2024 6:52:59 AM PDT by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: mikelets456
Ok, she calls the police, doesn't answer the door for minutes, cannot answer questions, and
has a boiling pot of water on the stove.

I beg to differ, they weren't that far apart.

27 posted on 07/23/2024 6:53:07 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts (,,)
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To: Alaska Wolf; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; Shimmer1; Salamander; ...
See post #26 above...

JBT Ping list

“Any police department (or university faculty, or military unit, etc.) is only as good as the worst psycho they tolerate.” ~ H/T RedStateRocker


28 posted on 07/23/2024 6:55:55 AM PDT by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: Salman

How is it three counts of 1st degree murder if he only killed one person?


29 posted on 07/23/2024 6:56:08 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: 9YearLurker
Undoubtedly

Probably by this guy


30 posted on 07/23/2024 6:57:53 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Tommy Revolts; mikelets456

> has a boiling pot of water on the stove <

Well, yes. But the woman did not appear agitated or aggressive at any time. And when she took the pot off the stove, she moved towards the sink as if to dump it out.

A pot of boiling water is not a long-range weapon. It would be one thing if she charged the cops. But to the contrary. The shooter cop moved towards her.

This was murder.


31 posted on 07/23/2024 6:59:46 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: yldstrk

I really hope you aren’t a lawyer if you’re giving advice like that. Moronic.


32 posted on 07/23/2024 7:01:46 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor

I am a lawyer and that is my advice. You are entitled to your opinion.


33 posted on 07/23/2024 7:03:45 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: yldstrk

There are several million interactions PER DAY between police and the public, and maybe a couple interactions per month result in an unjustified shooting. But you’re putting real fear in your clients making them believe they have an actual chance of being shot if they call the cops. Amazingly irresponsible. Unless you’re dealing with violent felons all day, which is unlikely.


34 posted on 07/23/2024 7:06:32 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor

Journalism 101. If it bleeds, it leads.


35 posted on 07/23/2024 7:17:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Regulator

Totally appropriate for Biden.


36 posted on 07/23/2024 7:30:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That’s a MAN, baby and a weight yo yo.


37 posted on 07/23/2024 7:35:38 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Salman

Why does anyone remain employed as a cop? Especially white people? ESPECIALLY white people in a “diverse” neighborhood?


38 posted on 07/23/2024 7:41:12 AM PDT by Organic Panic (SDemocrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Organic Panic

Typically, if you refrain walking into a person’s home and shooting them in the face, they let you keep your job and not send you to Joliet for the next 45 years.


39 posted on 07/23/2024 8:13:00 AM PDT by Round Earther
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To: thefactor

I don’t like the odds. You handle your life your way, I’ll handle my life my way.


40 posted on 07/23/2024 8:41:31 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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