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BS, there is one simple way to FIX our failing Public School system, Make it FELONY CHILD ABUSE with removal of the minor children from the home and pout in to Foster Care for ANY Public Employee or Officer of the Court to send their Minor children anywhere except the Public School System for their Primary Education. Watch how fast it gets fixed when they are Forced to Live under theoir Own Rules.
1 posted on 07/19/2024 6:39:30 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

Just wondering where in that pesky constitution thingie that the fed was granted the power to regulate education....


2 posted on 07/19/2024 6:41:23 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: eyeamok

Make them great again by getting rid of the Dept. of Ed., and let it revert back to state and local control.


3 posted on 07/19/2024 6:43:53 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: eyeamok

Public schools are a 19th century paradigm that outlived its usefulness in the early 21st century. Its primary function today is to give free day care to parents that have sold themselves into indentured slavery.


4 posted on 07/19/2024 6:48:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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To: eyeamok
ANY public education system will operate at the whims of those in power, no matter how local or seemingly "independent." It is building a demos ripe for collective manipulation.

"Public schooling" is collectivizing children in the name of relieving their mothers from their responsibilities, and alienates them from the associations needed to build social relationships with which who share those responsibilities. As a result, children feel isolated within a class size without that individual attention. Worse, to stratify them within groups of only peers deprives elder children from developing their skills and responsibiilites to teach and aid those younger while the latter don't learn respect and gratitude for that aid.

Hence, to warehouse children in this manner is a social structure of dysfunction meant only to keep older children from taking out their rages on the defenseless while making it possible to move an entire culture by isolating age groups of peers for group manipulation.

Groups of mothers sharing responsibilities is far preferable and an oppportunity to redress their educational deficiencies, thus being an example to kids witnessing that adult process that learning is a lifelong pursuit.

6 posted on 07/19/2024 6:55:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: eyeamok

The public school cannot be fixed. It is flawed in its very beginning assumptions, and flawed systemically by the system and the teacher schools in university.

One may point to the occasional good school, but those also will be eventually subsumed by the rot.


8 posted on 07/19/2024 7:02:41 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: eyeamok

“one simple way to FIX our failing Public School system, Make it FELONY CHILD ABUSE”

Judges generally don’t like excessive punishments and they have the final say.

Perhaps:

No employee benefit or atypical compensation may be granted with respect to a public employee and timeframe(s) wherein such employee’s child of K-12 age is enrolled in any private school.


10 posted on 07/19/2024 7:07:58 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: eyeamok

I like the Finland system, though I don’t know if certain groups in America would find it acceptable. You get streamed early on as your academic potential becomes apparent. You are then streamed for academics or a trade, depending on what you show you can do.


11 posted on 07/19/2024 7:10:35 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: eyeamok

“the word school referring to a place of learning traces back to Greek scholē, which has a meaning that will surprise students—’leisure.’”

“To the Greeks, leisure allowed a man to spend time thinking and finding out about things.”

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/get-schooled-on-the-origins-of-school-twice


12 posted on 07/19/2024 7:14:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: eyeamok

Quote:

school (v.1)
“educate, instruct;” also “reprimand, discipline, reprove,” mid-15c., scolen, from school (n.1). Especially “to train or discipline thoroughly and strictly,” as in a school (1570s).

https://www.etymonline.com/word/schooling


13 posted on 07/19/2024 7:17:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: eyeamok

https://www.raceforward.org/reports/education/historical-timeline-public-education-us


15 posted on 07/19/2024 7:24:53 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: eyeamok

The conservative solution is simple... let everyone pay for their own or their own families education. They will then demand excellence and expect a return on investment; if they don’t send their kids to school fine, their life choices have consequences, so let them face those consequences and pray they can learn from them. Of course when other people are footing the bill you will build a bureaucratic empire that will have an agenda that increases their political power.


16 posted on 07/19/2024 7:35:37 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: eyeamok

Yes. Unionized public school teachers know how bad the schools are. Worse, the know that faculties are staff with crazy cat ladies and lazy slobs. Rubbing their faces into their own urine would do wonders for education reform. But even that might be enough as their are a lot of teachers who don’t have kids. A parallel system of charter and religious schools with enough seats to empty public schools must be built. Public schools should be reduced to special ed facilities to handle the severely handicapped, emotionally disturbed and criminal kids.


21 posted on 07/19/2024 7:48:33 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: eyeamok

very detailed
https://education-uk.org/history/timeline.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_Education_Act_1870

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Act_1944


24 posted on 07/19/2024 7:59:10 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: eyeamok
build a public education system

It will be worthy of American exceptionalism if and only iff it is not under government control.

25 posted on 07/19/2024 8:00:50 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: eyeamok

First fix would be to build a wall.

Just look at the illegal invaders on our Southern border.

Lots of school age kids who will be showing up to attend public schools.

Build a wall was job one in 2016.

It is more imperative in 2024.

Calling for abolishing the Department of Education may be the right call.

But I am sick and tired of self-proclaimed conservatives offering solutions that are more theoretical than practical.

The reason I no longer self-identify as a conservative or a Republican is because CLOSING OPEN BORDERS is the simplest solution to so many problems that faces Our Republic.

Yet those elected as Republicans were not serious about the border crisis in 2016 and they are no more serious in 2024.

It was the Republican wing of the globalist Uniparty under the leadership of Majority leader Mitch McConnell and Speaker Paul Ryan who declared that the wall was DOA in congress as soon as Trump had been inaugurated.

Trump is not a stupid man.

Building a wall has MORE resonance today than in 2016.

Yet, he no longer talks about building a wall having learned his lesson in 2016.

The party whose ballot slot he has acquired from the GOPe was through a hostile takeover.

The majority of the party STILL takes its cues from its globalist masters not Trump.

If elected I’m certain Trump will do as much as the GOPe will allow him to do.

Trump has mentioned deportations.

Does anyone really think that will get any traction with the majority of congressional officeholders elected as Republicans?


27 posted on 07/19/2024 8:08:44 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: eyeamok

Public education is not the business of the federal government; all educational policies should be decided at the local level.

No funding and no regulations should come from the federal government for schools.


28 posted on 07/19/2024 8:08:52 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: eyeamok

Make American schools LOCAL again!


29 posted on 07/19/2024 8:09:33 AM PDT by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: All

The public school system worked up until the early 1960s-1970s. Ask yourself what the differences are now? I’ll start off.

1. Lack of Discipline - Not allowed to enforce discipline in the classroom. (Part and parcel due to the lack of self-discipline in our society due to the acceptance of radical societal notions from the 1960s.)

2. Societal Fragmentation - Teachers who think they are not Americans but “Citizens of the World”.

3. Unionization - Gives a false idea that they do not have any responsibility to the taxpayer. Remember the AFT Prez who said when students pay dues I’ll pay attention to their needs.


31 posted on 07/19/2024 8:26:30 AM PDT by Reily (f)
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To: eyeamok

U.S. Department of Education
Forecast of Funding Opportunities under the Department of Education Discretionary Grant Programs for Fiscal Year (FY) 2024

mind boggling:
https://www2.ed.gov/fund/grant/find/edlite-forecast.html?src=ft


33 posted on 07/19/2024 8:31:47 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (*** Help Trump, fund Republican candidates: https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2024)
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To: eyeamok

The 10A says education is entirely up to the states. they need to say that.


42 posted on 07/19/2024 10:49:51 AM PDT by Diversity Is Our Weakness
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