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To: Fai Mao

I don’t know if some of those commenting here realize what a slippery slope we’d go down, to suggest holding parents to blame for an adult son’s behavior. So many people seem willing to go there before they have any real proof that the parents realized what the son was about.


39 posted on 07/17/2024 11:10:20 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

I know what you mean, but see my post above...I will bet that this dead shooter would rail about these things, and his parents, even if they did or did not agree or hold the same views, were unlikely to have been unaware of their son’s instablity and unhinged anger in this, and...

They did not secure their firearms.

It is one thing if your son is like Kyle Rittenhouse, who by all accounts, was a mature and responsible young man.

It is quite another thing with a lunatic like this shooter.

If they did not secure their firearms, I just do not believe they were unaware of his dangerous instablity.

If they had been unaware...would they have called the police?

The answer is almost 100% certainly they would not have called the police. Which makes them complicit.

To what extent they should be held responsible is a matter for discussion.

I do not for a second believe they didn’t get filled with fear when they heard about this assassination attempt. And I believe there is a reason for that.


52 posted on 07/17/2024 11:38:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Jamestown1630

Oh. The call was apparently made BEFORE the assassination attempt.

Which is even more damning.


53 posted on 07/17/2024 11:40:24 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Jamestown1630

Just to be clear-I get what you are saying, but if they were worried enough to call the police because there was a Trump rally and he couldn’t have been found, he shouldn’t have been living in the house with an unsecure firearm (either his own, or his parents)

Sure, if it was his own firearm, if one believes in the 2nd Amendment for EVERYONE (which I do, even for unhinged Leftists who are responsible for the MASSIVE imbalance in violent gun activity of ALL kinds) which I hate having to have to accept, then he has to be allowed. But living under their roof, well.

I just don’t think they called because they couldn’t find him.

I think they called because they couldn’t find him and he had taken his gun with him.

If Trump was holding a rally in a nearby town, and my wife came home and couldn’t find me, she wouldn’t call the cops.

And if she couldn’t find me and looked in a gun safe to find my firearms missing, she wouldn’t be worried and call the cops.

But his parents did. (I don’t know if they saw the firearm gone. Or, if I am going to speculate, he left them a note. Which they probably destroyed, if he did.


54 posted on 07/17/2024 12:03:18 PM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Jamestown1630

I agree-legally speaking, the only way that a parent-or anyone else-is responsible for an adult’s behavior is if they are that person’s legal guardian-and that can only happen if the person they are responsible for has been adjudicated incompetent to handle their own affairs by a judge/court of law. I have not read/heard that this shooter’s parents had a guardianship over the son-but nothing about this atrocity makes sense in any case-it looks totally like a paid hit to me, with a “D” on the signature line...

My 1st job after college graduation was as a case worker at a (mostly) independent living facility for high level mentally retarded adults-the guardianship/responsibility issue was one we dealt with all the time that I worked there before becoming a workers comp case manager and going to the private sector-where I’m delighted not to have to ever deal with that stuff again...


63 posted on 07/17/2024 1:00:02 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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