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Trump shooting: Secret Service changes story on local SWAT team position
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/ ^ | 7/17/2024 | By Dan Mangan

Posted on 07/17/2024 9:35:59 AM PDT by bitt

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To: bitt

If you got some manure you want to sell you should get over to DC as quick as you can. It seems to in high demand nowadays..


61 posted on 07/17/2024 10:44:43 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: jeannineinsd

if you look closely they even added the blood after he was shot.

Of course, one poster said why are they using fake guns. kids that age have real ones in African.

But anyway, I thought it was interesting including the way they are swiveling their heads.


62 posted on 07/17/2024 10:44:46 AM PDT by RummyChick ( )
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To: bitt

Reassuring....


63 posted on 07/17/2024 10:48:47 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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There was one guy at the presser the day after they tried to kill Trump saying the perp was outside the perimeter????

Outside the perimeter? That perimeter is is anything within eyesight of The President and a bit beyond.

How in the Ho Lee Phuk is that possible?

I’ve been to Trump rallies and snipers are everywhere, including in the hills surrounding.

Security is actually visible for miles before you even get to a rally venue.

I felt safe, as well, unconcerned for The President’s safety

Moreover, there was a helicopter circling the event

The building 20 feet behind the dead dude is actually one story higher and begs the question “Why wasn’t a team on top of those buildings?” We know the answer.

Moreover, there is a 90 foot water directly to the east and overlooking all the buildings where dead was and he would have been easily seen if a team was on that water tower.

It is only 100yrds to the east. https://www.google.com/maps/place/615+Whitestown+Rd,+Meridian,+PA+16001/@40.8585856,-79.9698802,577m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x88337d9ebe29308f:0x1b4bca6251cd761e!8m2!3d40.8585186!4d-79.9699773!16s%2Fg%2F11ckqj_ky9?entry=ttu

No one on building to secure it.

No one overlooking to secure it.

So… a guy just decides to show up at a rally and take a potshot at PDJT… and he looks around for a spot that wasn’t covered by USSS and… well whadaya know! He’s in luck. A handy barn roof with no-one on it. And his rifle happens to be sighted in for the distance to the stage.

Now, let’s just see if he can get up there with a rifle without being spotted. Well whaddaya know! Another lucky break! Wait… he was spotted and pointed out to security, Well whaddaya know! Three times lucky! Security blew it off.

Oops. His luck ran out. He was shot deader’n a doornail. Tsk, tsk. Too bad. Can’t question him now.

Gonna be lots of stuff out there

Fact is “it should have never happened “

That it did is inexplicable and no answer will be acceptable

Snipers have an Area of Operation

In that AO are Squares that they are responsible for scanning hostiles and intelligence

Each Square also has math notes for distance, elevation, declination, etc

This was not a slipup


64 posted on 07/17/2024 10:48:55 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: RummyChick

Ohhh, that is good!


65 posted on 07/17/2024 10:48:56 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: Biblebelter
"Hard to know what to believe."

That's an easy one. Don't believe a darn thing the demonrat administration says...

66 posted on 07/17/2024 10:52:00 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: bitt

SS are exposing their leaders a liars. There are none safe from harm. Not Republicans or Democrats.


67 posted on 07/17/2024 10:58:29 AM PDT by healy61 (.)
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To: bitt
Either the Secret Service is grossly incompetent, where even a neophyte like me can see the wide open gap in security, or there was a conspiracy to take Trump out of the election and American politics in definite manner.

Considering the recent track record in conspiracy theories being proven right, I am more inclined to pay close attention to conspiracy theories, especially if democrats. government agencies (I repeat myself), and the media label them as conspiracy theories.

68 posted on 07/17/2024 10:58:42 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: bitt

I am certain the SS director did not set up the security plan or even approve it. I am reasonably that some DEI official did. Washington works that way. They want buffers from potential problems. They will cut the rip cord at first sign of trouble.


69 posted on 07/17/2024 11:01:12 AM PDT by Mouton (A 150MT hit may not solve our problems now but is a good start. )
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To: rdcbn1

The problem that faces the SS is that information travels in seconds. The slope was too steep: here is the picture of the slope for all to see. Here is the meme of Trump measuring the slope. See how it is working. Next lie.


70 posted on 07/17/2024 11:11:26 AM PDT by healy61 (.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

The photo in your link, along with the details, explains a lot. The local counter-sniper teams were inside the building behind the sniper, inside the 2nd story windows to the far left of the building. They would need to stick their heads out the window and look to their left (viewer’s right) to see the would-be assassin. The assassin was at least partially obscured from the view of the SS counter-sniper team by the large tree between them. The SS protection team would have certainly identified this area and implemented measures to secure it. Placing the police counter-sniper team on the roof of the 2 story building would have given them visual coverage of the assassin’s location.

Several sources have reported that the local team was supposed to be on the roof, but changed their location to inside on the 2nd floor. When they informed the SS of the change, that should have been reversed/denied. Someone obviously didn’t do their job.


71 posted on 07/17/2024 11:15:09 AM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: bitt

anyone else getting the impression that the SS

pretty much wings these events?

nobody knows who was where


72 posted on 07/17/2024 11:21:59 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: ridesthemiles

ALL THESE ELECTRONIC DEVICES & CAMERAS ON PHONES ARE GOING TO DISMANTLE THE LIES BY THE SS. CHEATLE IS DIGGING HERSELF IN DEEPER.
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Good!
Always LOVE seeing those BLAMESTORMING get wrecked.
Waiting for such fails to see jail time.

DEI in this country needs to cease before failures in everything takeover(i.e. Houston’s power DEI fail for a Cat 1, jet planes not built and/or maintained correctly, near misses at airports with DEI staff, etc).
Then one day the power plant feeding your home fails b/c they hired their 30% DEI to “fix” things, water to your home(if on a public supply) fails or is delivered polluted/deadly b/c incompetence wins finally.


73 posted on 07/17/2024 11:32:26 AM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: TexasGator
” ... and the next year 45% of the agents resigned.”

Source?

48% resigned

74 posted on 07/17/2024 11:38:05 AM PDT by SC DOC (A)
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To: SC DOC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9boJpqiZTQ

Above is an hour long interview with Tim Kennedy former(?) MMA fighter, sniper & sniper instructor Tim Kennedy. (I had to look that up.)

He talks about how the assassination attempt was a huge failure in so many ways. I don’t recall if he mentions the rate of departure at the SS, but he said it takes four years IIRC for an agent to be trained and ready for the field.

He said the snipers on the roof, by the way they flinched, had never been in a fight before.

I have no idea how accurate he is on all of his breakdown, but a lot of it sure made sense and is obvious to anyone.


75 posted on 07/17/2024 11:48:44 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
"If they keep changing their story enough, they'll finally settle into a lie that the media will accept and promote."

For me, even incompetence could could not possibly be the cause of this humongous failure.. So many supposedly experts and professionals in security right at hand. Simply put, ain't no way that many of those people could be that stupid.

The only possible answer to this murderous plot is a willingness to stand down, with a malice of forethought. ANYTHING else, is a damned lie.!

76 posted on 07/17/2024 11:48:53 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: bitt

FBI and SS conversation.
Costello: “Who’s playing first base?”
Abbott: “Who’s on first.”
Costello: “I mean the fellow’s name on first base.”
Abbott: “Who.”


77 posted on 07/17/2024 1:22:22 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: ETCM

Thank you very much for the explanation. So, then, the Secret Service and the police left the one-story building, which was in the front and behind a tree, completely unprotected.

Our enemies all over the world must be laughing and taking notes.


78 posted on 07/17/2024 1:44:07 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
Our enemies all over the world must be laughing and taking notes.

Indeed. They now know our most senior leadership is poorly protected by an organization more focused on diversity than security. Such knowledge could encourage many groups to consider assassinations they previously thought beyond their capability. There are certainly thousands of men already here from China, Russia, Iran, Gaza and other places, and they are far more experienced, skilled and trained than this Crooks clown.

79 posted on 07/17/2024 2:07:18 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: ETCM
There are certainly thousands of men already here from China, Russia, Iran, Gaza and other places, and they are far more experienced, skilled and trained than this Crooks clown.

Frightening thought - but it is the truth. Supposedly, Secret Service "ramped up security" at this rally after learning of an Iran assassination plot against Trump. If true, their idea of tightened security is a total failure. It looks more like they relaxed security and purposely left an opening for an assassin. Of course, Iran denies there was a plot. But, for all we know, Iran might have floated that plot to test Secret Service response.

Let's hope and pray Trump turns this country in the right direction.

80 posted on 07/17/2024 9:44:32 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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