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To: laplata

According to Erik Prince, it wasn’t a guy on top of that roof behind Trump who took out the shooter; it was a SS sniper who was 488 yards away who killed the shooter.

https://x.com/realErikDPrince/status/1812538250931642534

I’d love to hear our gun/sniper experts here respond to what Prince says in that post. One question I’d have is where would a SS sniper have been 488 yards away, and why didn’t the closer guys shoot once the shooter fired?


47 posted on 07/15/2024 3:47:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks for the link.

People must be fired but I doubt if that happens to the top.


66 posted on 07/15/2024 4:37:40 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: butterdezillion; All

heres what prince had to say a man of years of experience:

Hopefully after the tragedy yesterday in Butler PA we can all recognize that unaccountable bloated bureaucracies continue to fail us as Americans.

Donald J Trump is alive today solely due to a bad wind estimate by an evil would be assasin.
As the graphics show the full value wind of just 5mph was enough to displace the unconfirmed but likely light 55 grain bullet two inches from DJT’s intended forehead to his ear.
DJT was not saved by USSS brilliance. The fact that USSS allowed a rifle armed shooter within 150yds to a preplanned event is either malice or massive incompetence. Clearly there was adequate uncontrolled dead space for a shooter to move into position and take multiple aimed shots. Watching the newsreel one can hear how proximate the shooter is by the very short time lapse between the crack of arriving bullet (supersonic) to the boom of muzzle blast (sonic).

The law enforcement sniper (unclear if USSS) in newsreels was clearly overwhelmed as his face came off his rifle instead of doing his job to kill the shooter. Clearly they were watching the shooter but apparently have a no “first shot” policy. The only positive action was an apparent 488yd shot by one USSS sniper which despatched the assasin but after the assassin launched at least 5 rounds, wounding DJT and killing and severely others in the crowd.

In my old business of providing Diplomatic Security in two active war zones we were expected to execute the basics or we would be fired. Clearly USSS failed at the basics of a secure perimeter and once shots were fired their extraction was clumsy and left DJT highly exposed to follow on attacks. It looked like they had never drilled together because those responses should be effectively autonomic. Will there be accountability? That’s not the Washington way.

Unserious and unworthy people in positions of authority got us to this near disaster. Merit and execution must be the only deciding factors in hiring and leadership, not the social engineering priority of the day. Sadly nothing in Washington reflects that any longer. DJT is right to question the competence of those protecting him because yesterday they failed in almost every way. Nature abhors a vacuum and there are always other options.
Most importantly, as Americans let’s come together and run a proper valid election so we can get back to what matters a merit based society that judges on character and skill. Nothing else.


85 posted on 07/15/2024 6:55:34 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT))
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks for link to Erik Prince’s images and comments.


94 posted on 07/16/2024 5:17:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: butterdezillion

Prince does not mention the President turning his head; to me the head turn was more important in this case than wind drift.

Prince provides no information that there was a 5mph wind pushing the bullet away from the target.

Prince may be the smartest person in the room but this post does not prove it.


96 posted on 07/16/2024 6:05:27 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: butterdezillion

This post I made earlier today is what you should be worrying about.:

You are absolutely correct. We’ve never been subjected to this level of Evil.

Yes, they have many tools including taking down all or part of the Grid, Sleeper Cells, the Economy, burning cities/paid Social Unrest, etc. Paralysis....

We can put nothing past them.

I still have it at 50-50 that we have an election. Soon to go to 60-40.


100 posted on 07/16/2024 7:56:11 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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