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Failure and slaughter: IDF’s Be’eri probe shows army’s colossal errors, residents’ bravery
Times of Israel ^ | 7/11/24 | Emanuel Fabian

Posted on 07/13/2024 6:06:43 AM PDT by hardspunned

On the morning of October 7, 2023, hundreds of terrorists swarmed into the unsuspecting Gaza border community of Kibbutz Be’eri, in what would become one of the deadliest killing grounds amid the Hamas-led terror onslaught, and the worst attack on a single community.

Residents were left to fend for themselves for long hours, with the army — stunned by the shock attack on dozens of towns and in utter disarray — failing to come to their rescue as terrorists moved from home to home, kidnapping, brutalizing and massacring civilians well into the afternoon.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


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Bibi the Magnificent. This and the Hannibal Directive!
1 posted on 07/13/2024 6:06:43 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

I find it inconceivable that this happened without inside help.


2 posted on 07/13/2024 6:10:41 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: Sarcazmo

I think that the left in Israel committed treason and murder.


3 posted on 07/13/2024 6:16:34 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Sarcazmo

Until that day, I considered the IDF one of the most competent militaries in the world. Bibi was either in on letting it happen or was comatose asleep at the wheel.


4 posted on 07/13/2024 6:17:52 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Concur, it seems to be par for the course these days... everywhere.

Big moves are being made.


5 posted on 07/13/2024 6:25:23 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: hardspunned

Has Jared Kushner broke ground on the new condos yet?


6 posted on 07/13/2024 6:25:40 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

He’s the most vile human I know of.


7 posted on 07/13/2024 6:31:50 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Sarcazmo

Learn from your mistakes arm your people


8 posted on 07/13/2024 6:32:55 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: hardspunned

Yeah, but those condos will be big and beautiful. Biggest you’ve ever seen. Nobody builds like Trump. On time, under budget.


9 posted on 07/13/2024 6:33:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: hardspunned

The logical result of the probe indicates strongly the need in Israel for a Second Amendment. Every kibbutz should have an organized local militia, which is able to defend itself.

I read, in fact, that there was one such kibbutz which did defend itself very successfully.

It’s very difficult for the IDF, or any military force, to remain for a long time at very high attention. A well equipped and trained local militia is a strong reponse.


10 posted on 07/13/2024 6:35:30 AM PDT by budj (hre)
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To: hardspunned
When this war is over Bibi is done. He, the current IDF Chief and other politicians need to resign. They were all complacent and left civilians unprotected.

To me the most egregious thing is how the f’ing hell did Israel leaders not anticipate this knowing they have disarmed their population. The average Gaza teenager has access to weapons, Gazans kept full auto AKs in their homes. Wake up and smell he coffee. Don't lock weapons in a central armory, have gun safes in homes with weapons loaded and ready to go. In a kibbutz in the north that may seem to be extreme, but within sight of the Gaza border it is common sense.

11 posted on 07/13/2024 6:35:48 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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To: hardspunned

You seem inordinately affectionate towards Hamas. Why is that?

L


12 posted on 07/13/2024 6:35:55 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: hardspunned

Mossad was blinded by the anti Netanyahu cabal that has infiltrated it. They failed to detect and dutifully report the huge builup of arms and missiles transferred into Gaza through Egypt from Iran. It also failed to know the the strength and intent of Hamas. Were they just incompetent or hate filled traitors? Same thing can happen in America. If Trump is reelected his first order of business must be to purge the DOJ and the Intelligence agencies.


13 posted on 07/13/2024 6:37:27 AM PDT by allendale
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To: hardspunned
He was busy fighting law fare by opponents. Short of it, Bibi is under investigation and as such can only hold the office of PM, as such he was more concerned with attacking the courts and protecting himself. But the IDF and previous PM are also responsible due to policies placating terrorists.

Why does Oct 7 remind of Aesop's tale of the frog and the scorpion?

14 posted on 07/13/2024 6:40:52 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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To: hardspunned

Islam, its proxies and enablers are well-versed in the stratagems of war. The EVIL collective has been destroying, raping and murdering a long time.


15 posted on 07/13/2024 6:43:18 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: riverrunner

Governments don’t want their people armed.

I believe that what happened was precisely the desired outcome of the conspirators.

What is hard to believe is that Sergeant that was told to leave his post and did. He would have known better. But I guess military folks just follow orders, no mater what.

That’s scary. But we saw it during Katrina when the Guard was stealing revolvers from little old American ladies.


16 posted on 07/13/2024 6:46:16 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: hardspunned
"People, let me tell you 'bout my beeessstt friend..."


17 posted on 07/13/2024 6:51:11 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: hardspunned

More of your slanderous BS. Treasonous leftist elements in the Air Force and intelligence services were in outright mutiny all year before over the judicial reform law. They are the direct cause. Bibi was not “in on it”, or an idiot.
The nation was betrayed by the left. And now they are trying to hang it all in him.


18 posted on 07/13/2024 7:06:48 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Lurker

Love Hamas, hates Bibi, hates Kushner, etc. thinks Israel deliberately and knowingly let the atrocity happen.
They used to call that a blood libel.

It’s obvious what the motivation is.


19 posted on 07/13/2024 7:10:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: allendale

Mossad and military want to warn him because he would act and they didn’t want to have him look switched on or protective. Likely they expected something much smaller that might embarrass him.
Bibi is the innocent victim of the Israeli left.


20 posted on 07/13/2024 7:18:28 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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