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When Ronald Reagan stunned America by picking a liberal running mate
Washington Post ^ | 07/11/2024 | Frederic J. Frommer

Posted on 07/11/2024 8:58:27 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh I know that. My post wasn’t directed at you. It was directed at the Compost for their feeble attempt to sway voters. I used your statement which I realized was a sarcastic remark to the Compost, and it was because it was an effective retort to them, that I thought it fitting to repeat to them as well. πŸ™‚πŸ‘


21 posted on 07/11/2024 9:19:54 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Gotcha lol


22 posted on 07/11/2024 9:21:48 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27
When Ronald Reagan stunned America by picking a liberal running mate

Hopefully Trump will never make a similar mistake - 2028 isn't far away and we will need a Republican standard-bearer who will keep the party moving toward America First and chasing the RINOs out.
23 posted on 07/11/2024 9:22:43 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Well it comes as no surprise that the communist post wants Trump to pick someone evil to be his running mate.


24 posted on 07/11/2024 9:27:03 AM PDT by Revel
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They wanted him to pick Gerald Ford.


25 posted on 07/11/2024 9:28:57 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: rdl6989

You were four years old. You were more interested in what was for lunch than you were in politics.


26 posted on 07/11/2024 9:29:32 AM PDT by Buck-Toothed Knuckle Dragger
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To: rdl6989

I’m just a couple years older than you. I heard of him because I grew up in PA and he was one of my Senators at the time. Arlen Specter replaced him in the Senate. Schweiker did end up in Reagan’s cabinet as HHS Secretary in Reagan’s first term.


27 posted on 07/11/2024 9:31:25 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: supremedoctrine; All

I think the only thing that would discourage Trump supporters at this point would be to pick another Pence.


28 posted on 07/11/2024 9:37:26 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This was probably significant in 1976. Now? Not seeing it.


29 posted on 07/11/2024 9:42:00 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Pointing out hypocrisy is meaningless to the Left; they don't have principles, they have goals. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27
πŸ™‚πŸ‘

Sorry that I didn't make that more clear in my original post. My bad. πŸ˜‹

30 posted on 07/11/2024 9:42:22 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

No worries


31 posted on 07/11/2024 9:44:31 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I never worry, because I know it can be worked out. I’m just obligated to publicly acknowledge my vast shortcomings for the record. 🀣


32 posted on 07/11/2024 9:50:45 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Well done, I think my heart stopped for a second when I saw that forgotten name, I’m worried enough at the current names being tossed around.


33 posted on 07/11/2024 9:53:55 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Sparticus

JFK left us LBJ tragically, and Reagan left us GHW Bush. Pence was a terrible pick, but it’s indicative of how Trump was thinking he could play nice with the Establishment. He should know now that he CAN’T


34 posted on 07/11/2024 10:04:48 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So.

If you see American politics as a minor struggle of the intelligence community against those who believe in the rule of law, transparent government, sane foreign policy, etc....then this starts to look a lot different.

Schweicker was very active in the Church Committee. He was (rightly) critical of the CIA. Among the other things that the Church Committee uncovered, was MK Ultra, the CIA’s highly illegal mind control program. (Which included acting on US soil, which, as we all know, is “illegal”).

This is indisputable. MK Ultra is a fact. The CIA after that says it reformed. That “fact” however is highly disputable....

Now...so Reagan picks an anti-CIA guy, and is running against Hoover’s b*&#( on the Warren Commission, Gerald Ford.

This is nothing less than a salvo against the Intelligence Industrial Complex.

Reagan loses at the Convention.

Then, he picks the ultimate Intelligence Industrial Complex insider, Bush in 80.

Perhaps Reagan acquiesced? Perhaps Reagan wanted to still try to go to war against the CIA, and thought he could do so even with Bush on the inside? Who knows?

Then March 81 comes. We all know what happened then. What is not often talked about is that Hinckley’s dad was a big donor of a Tulsa-based ministry which was absolutely a CIA front. And that Hinckley, Jr. was under the care of a psychiatrist. All of this sounds a lot like....you guessed it....MK Ultra.

Not saying it WAS MK Ultra....I’m just saying it sounded like MK Ultra.

Then there is Haig’s (”I’m in charge here!”) role on that day/days preceding. This seems to me to be ambiguous....because the facts are not clear. But there is some evidence that Haig was on the outs with the intel community....and perhaps had been so since the Nixon White House.

So was it Reagan and Haig (and Schweicker who was quietly serving at HHS) against Bush and others? (Like Richard Helms, etc.)

I don’t know. I’m just saying that once you start to view the world through the lense of Intelligence Industrial Complex v. Rule of Law types, the world starts to look very different.

Oh, and let’s don’t even get into Squeaky Fromme (Manson associate) taking a shot at Ford. Squeaky wasn’t a “deranged loner”. Rather, she was quite possibly, another MK Ultra experiment following orders. Manson himself, some have claimed, was also an MK Ultra experiment. Oh, and Sara Jane Moore, was absolutely an FBI informant. So you have an FBI informant attempting to assassinate a President....who was the FBI’s main guy on the Warren Commission! WTF?!

Oh, maybe we can get the Washington Post on this story!

Oh, wait.

Bob Woodward, it turns out, before becoming the Woodward who so courageously took out Nixon...was....a Naval Intelligence Officer who had classified credentials but no reporting experience. Almost makes you think that the Washington Post was a CIA front (or largely infiltrated by the CIA).

Final point....Arthur Bremer and Mark David Chapman were also under the care of psychiatrists. Oh, and the head of MK Ultra visited Jack Ruby in prison....before Ruby sort of went bonkers.

I’m not saying all these thigns are tied together. I’m not a conspiracy theorist.

I’m just pointing out some thigns that the media (MSM) doesn’t talk about much.

And I will always have a soft spot for Schweicker, notwithstanding the fact that he was a lib, because he tried to help Reagan in 76 :)


35 posted on 07/11/2024 10:06:33 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: cherry

see my post #35


36 posted on 07/11/2024 10:08:03 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: supremedoctrine

People keep saying how awful Pence was.

But I watched him for four year, standing beside or behind Donald Trump, supporting him in every way, never offering a contrary opinion or doing anything to undercut him. If that’s not true, please bring some examples.

In the end, he decided he could not go outside the constitutionally-defined role of the President of the Senate regarding election certification and everyone started calling him a traitor and drawing horns on his head.

Pence followed the constitution, no matter how much I wish he could have done otherwise. The flaw is in the constitution which was written by men of integrity who never in their wildest dreams imagined the nation they so carefully crafted would be subverted by power-hungry election fraud.

Pence may have turned in to some kind of prick afterward, and maybe he was all along - but from the public record I say it’s hard to prove he was anything but a loyal vice president.


37 posted on 07/11/2024 10:26:26 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Thanks WaPo. You’ve convinced me. Why not AOC? What a brilliant move! (s)


38 posted on 07/11/2024 10:44:28 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Scarborough: "This is the Best Biden ever.")
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What Trump needs is assassination insurance. Take out Trump and you get ...


39 posted on 07/11/2024 10:49:02 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Scarborough: "This is the Best Biden ever.")
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To: Indy Pendance
That went well......

Reagan was probably never going to beat the incumbent President Ford, regardless of who he picked for VP. The primaries were over and the projected delegate count had Ford winning. Well over half the uncommitted delegates were in NY, NJ and PA. Reagan thought Schweiker would secure PA, and possibly bring NY or NJ. Picking a conservative from any of those states would only have secured 1 state, and no other delegates he didn't win anyway.

In the end, I suspect his loss was a blessing. Reagan quite possibly would have lost to Carter, and we might never have had his 2 terms as POTUS.

40 posted on 07/11/2024 11:24:02 AM PDT by ETCM (β€œThere is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” β€” Ronald Reagan)
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