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Does America Need a President?
The New York Times ^ | July 5, 2024 | Ross Douthat

Posted on 07/06/2024 9:44:24 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

As the belief that Joe Biden is fully equipped to be president dissolves like mist on a Delaware morning, some of his defenders have fallen back on the idea that the American presidency is not really a man but a team.

“I would take Joe Biden on his worst day at age 86 — so long as he has people around him like Avril Haines, Samantha Power, Gina Raimondo supporting him — over Donald Trump any day,” a former homeland security secretary, Jeh Johnson, said on MSNBC a few days ago. Don’t think of this as the Biden presidency, in other words; think of it as the Biden-Raimondo-Haines-Power presidency (tack on a dozen more names if you like), in which if the central pillar weakens, the support structure can still hold things up.

From there, you could take the relatively mild position that one lesson of both the Biden years and Trump’s first term is that the executive branch can often work around a president who isn’t quite up to the demands of the job. Or you could take the sweeping position that the government as a corporate entity almost always works independently of the occupant of the Oval Office and so an increasingly incapacitated chief executive who does what the process tells him to do would just be business as usual for the ship of state.

The mild position clearly has some truth to it: The everyday functioning of the executive branch does seem more independent of the president’s capacities than it appeared to be before January 2017. I also think the sweeping argument gets at an important reality of governmental power: Conservatives especially have long understood the limited ability of presidents to fully impose their authority on the bureaucracy they nominally lead.

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To: laplata
... some states are going to be leaving the Union ...

I recall some stupid Democrats tried that once. It did not turn out well.

21 posted on 07/06/2024 10:21:14 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: MinorityRepublican
fallen back on the idea that the American presidency is not really a man but a team.

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behold the bad faith mental gymnastic employees here.

they take a truism that a president has a cabinet team

i.e. a Presidency

then insist that means there isn't actually such thing as a singular President.

A presidency without a President ? that my freinds is the classis con job known as bait and swith .

nice try comrades SPIT

22 posted on 07/06/2024 10:22:25 AM PDT by cuz1961
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
The second stage of grieving: Denial

HA HA HA HA

23 posted on 07/06/2024 10:23:21 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: cuz1961

A presidency without a President ?

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that my freinds is the classis con job

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known as bait and switch .

nice try comrades


24 posted on 07/06/2024 10:24:34 AM PDT by cuz1961
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To: MinorityRepublican

Only if he MAGA.


25 posted on 07/06/2024 10:27:00 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: MinorityRepublican

And their next question will be, does America even need to be independent?


26 posted on 07/06/2024 10:27:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Apparently not; we haven’t had one since 2021.


27 posted on 07/06/2024 10:28:03 AM PDT by DPMD (.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Democracy dies with the media.


28 posted on 07/06/2024 10:29:16 AM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as big an enemy to this country as national media)
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To: MinorityRepublican
“I would take Joe Biden on his worst day at age 86 — so long as he has people around him like Avril Haines, Samantha Power, Gina Raimondo supporting him…

WHO?

Oh, Jeh Johnson. Never mind.

29 posted on 07/06/2024 10:29:46 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: cgbg
We need a Committee of Karens to rule over us...

That explains our foreign policy in a nutshell.

30 posted on 07/06/2024 10:30:22 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Gee we don’t know NYT editorial board. What is your goal here? To incite anxiety, discord, division?

Why don’t you consult the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. constitution

And if you have a better idea start your own country. Appeal to congress or go to some island.


31 posted on 07/06/2024 10:32:01 AM PDT by stanne
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To: nwrep

Whose going to stop them this time? Biden and his band of merry woke gay infantry?

The sorts that look like the dregs of society?


32 posted on 07/06/2024 10:32:01 AM PDT by SPDSHDW (Only peaceful solution is a national divorce. There is no harmony between the statists and the right)
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To: Tommy Revolts

Avril Lavigne, Samantha Stevens, and Gina Carano?!


33 posted on 07/06/2024 10:32:39 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: SPDSHDW
Whose going to stop them this time?

A Zoom call from Lloyd Austin.

34 posted on 07/06/2024 10:34:39 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: All

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They lied and lied and presented the fantasy that Biden was smart as a whip and taking the country in the right direction - his polls tanked - and now they want you to believe he was a great President for 3.5 years.

Biden has been cognitively compromised for five years, but the Polls caught up and his Media is moving on to the next fable.


35 posted on 07/06/2024 10:34:48 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Impeachment Inquiry is necessary since Deep State is blocking )
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To: MinorityRepublican

This rabble is from folks who have absolutely NO understanding of the United States of America or our Constitution.

..because it is no longer taught.

All kids hear now is how awful this country is..


36 posted on 07/06/2024 10:35:09 AM PDT by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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To: DPMD

And therein lies the rub with this lunacy.


37 posted on 07/06/2024 10:36:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: knarf

“What we don’t need are dishonest, unholy people obtaining political power.“

- of which, we have 535 in congress and tens of thousands in all the government agencies and bureaucracies they’ve created in order to maintain their corrupt power. It’s sewn up for them now. “… the people?!?… WHAT people??…”


38 posted on 07/06/2024 10:38:33 AM PDT by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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To: nwrep

It would be Red States.

I stated my opinion and that’s it. Have a good day.


39 posted on 07/06/2024 10:39:46 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

In L. Neil Smith’s North American Confederacy alt-history novels, None of the Above wins the presidency in 1968, 2000, and 2004, then wins President-for-Life in 2008.


40 posted on 07/06/2024 10:39:53 AM PDT by jdege
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