Posted on 07/03/2024 2:24:02 PM PDT by DallasBiff
To save the imperiled spotted owl from potential extinction, U.S. wildlife officials are embracing a contentious plan to deploy trained shooters into dense West Coast forests to kill almost a half-million barred owls that are crowding out their cousins.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service strategy released Wednesday is meant to prop up declining spotted owl populations in Oregon, Washington state and California. The Associated Press obtained details in advance.
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I have witnessed a parliament of barreds once right at sundown. Like a pre-hunt meeting. Pretty cool.
Yes-that is what always happens when some bunch of lunatics decide to decimate or eliminate a predator species from an area, but they do not learn-in a year or so, Oregon will have a plague of rodents-or even better-snakes and lizards...
Yeah. Go take a look at “Playing God in Yellowstone: The Destruction of America’s First National Park”. How the environmentalists used the Army to upend the ecosystem of Yellowstone. All environmentalists are psychopaths - no exceptions.
They are doing this the justify the job losses, family devastation, poverty and drug addiction caused by shutting down the timber industry in Oregon purportedly to save the spotted owl. Not to mention strengthening our enemies by sending jobs overseas.
I retired into southern Oregon and entire lumber mills have been sold and shipped to Asia.
Once the government causes so many ruined lives they need to make everyone believe it was a “wise” decision.
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sure.
An NTE 180 is a seasonal position, in my case a GS 5 paygrade.
NTE 180 stands for
Not To Exceed 180 days of employment.
next year i wasn’t given another nte 180.
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I am going to guess.
nte = not to exceed
180 = 180 days of working, like a yearly max of part time work, maybe.
To make their own law to kill off a protected species to “try” to salvage another species?
Proving again that “expert” bureaucrats are clods and morons.
It’s the arrogance. It makes them brain dead.
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sorry., im not sure i believe you.
i also worked on your neighbor forest, the U.S Fremont Forest, late 80’s, and i never even heard of any spotted owl surveys...
and 1979 ? did you mean 1989 ?
you and a budy ? was that a subcontract ? or where you federal employees ?
answer your call ?
what call ?.
we physically grid pattern searched every single acre with the full silviculture crew .
ya, sorry, i dont believe you for a second. . /-)
If you say so.......SMH!
Bad idea shooting all those “undesirable” Owls.
Don’t forget,
Owl Lives Matter!
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as a federal employee ?
cuz federal employees aren't exempt from fire duty cuz you are doing something else.
everyone goes if sent. if you didnt go on fires cuz the man power wasnt needed, thats one thing.
but you dont get excused cuz you are doing something else.
i think your whole story is just that, a story.
no offense, and i apologize if im wrong.
Barred Owls (stryx varia) are common in North Louisiana. Their call is distinctive: “Whoo, whoo, whoo cooks for you!” One of my very favorite bird calls.
Crater Lake National Park
The first surveys were conducted in 1978 with the help of the U.S. Forest Service and the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.
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i stand corrected.
there was a survey in 1978.
Being familiar with dense west coast forests, I predict more than a
few of the "trained hunters" will end up shooting their comrades.
A plan only a ‘rat could love.
It was 1979, not 1989. Spotted owls were only starting to become a political and environmental cause. The survey was done by myself and another USFS employee, both seasonal wildlife techs, GS-3 I think. Our boss was back in the office. The method of surveying was not at all rigorous; we had a tape-recorded spotted owl call that we’d play over a portable loudspeaker, and the spotted owls were supposed to hoot back. Then we’d go back in the daytime and locate the nest.
Far from conducting a grid search of every acre, we drove every road on the forest, stopping every half mile to play the call a few times and wait for a response. We also covered whatever trails we could given the time constraints of an 8-hour shift, which meant not getting into the wilderness areas. Compared to an actual search of the entire forest, it was laughably casual; I think the higher-ups were just trying to show that they were doing something.
Now your questions have been answered, and I don’t give a rat’s ass if you believe me or not.
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