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Democrats wrestle with whether Harris would be stronger than Biden
The Hill ^ | July 3, 2024 | Alexander Bolton, Amie Parnes

Posted on 07/03/2024 7:41:43 AM PDT by Angelino97

Democrats are wrestling over the question of whether Vice President Harris would be a stronger candidate than President Biden to head the Democratic ticket after last week’s race-altering debate.

Harris has made it clear in recent days that she fully supports Biden’s continued bid for a second term and is not angling to replace him.

But Democratic aides and strategists say privately that Biden’s fate could depend on what polls show over the next few weeks, and they warn that if he falls substantially further behind former President Trump, it could prompt widespread calls among Democrats for the president to drop his reelection bid.

Democrats have generally stuck with Biden, but cracks emerged Tuesday, with Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) becoming the first sitting House member to call on the president to step aside.

Harris is the most likely substitute for Biden, though several sources said there would likely be competition.

“We just have to win, and it’s probably easier with someone other than Joe Biden,” one Senate Democratic aide said.

A CNN poll of registered voters conducted by SSRS in the days after the debate showed Trump now beating Biden nationwide by 6 points, 49 percent support to 43 percent. The same poll showed Trump leading Harris by a narrower margin, 47 percent support to 45 percent.

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1 posted on 07/03/2024 7:41:43 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

It all depends on how the freeloaders feel about Indo/Jamaican “refugees” as President of the United States. We had a Kenyan so she probably has a good chance. “White Guilt” plays havoc when it comes to elections in America these dayz.


2 posted on 07/03/2024 7:44:40 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (President Trump is a businessman first and a politician second. That's why he's good for America.)
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To: Angelino97

At this point in Biden’s decline, she actually would be better.

But they are going to have to execute a fabian strategy and avoid pitched battle, just like they did with Biden for 4 years. If they can keep her out of interviews and debates, and let her do press conferences where she reads from a teleprompter but doesn’t have to answer press questions (so as to avoid goofy answers and cackling), they could probably make her appear semi-likable, and keep the majority of the female and minority vote demographics


3 posted on 07/03/2024 7:45:18 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Angelino97

Completely academic exercise. The polls have barely budged, and Biden is the only man to have beaten Trump. Both men are known quantities, as are the respective party platforms. Just about every voter has a home team. You don’t abandon your home team because it got its clock cleaned - you double down. That’s why the polls have moved by a point or two. Voters are dug in.

Polling aside, due to election mechanics that prevent an intra-party insurrection, Harris won’t replace Biden, any more than anyone replaced Strom Thurmond or Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Dianne Feinstein was literally in a wheelchair before anyone was able to persuade her to leave. But it was voluntary - she had to agree. When they dig their heels in, as with Thurmond and Ginsburg, there’s not much anyone else can do.

Biden’s worked his whole life to get here. He’ll be damned if he lets anyone take it from him. Like every one of Trump’s opponents, he’s betting on Trump’s auto-destruct tendencies to give him a leg up. With four months to go, there’s still a lot of rope with which Trump can hang himself.


4 posted on 07/03/2024 7:45:22 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Angelino97

stronger than Biden, LOL


5 posted on 07/03/2024 7:45:52 AM PDT by coalminersson
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To: Angelino97

Pick your poison.


6 posted on 07/03/2024 7:47:05 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Zhang Fei

and no one effs with a biden. no one.


7 posted on 07/03/2024 7:47:07 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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It’s all about the polling. We have seen only one post debate poll explicitly compared to that same poll pre debate.

Here: https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/cnn-poll-post-debate/index.html

That was yesterday. Trump +6. April, Trump +6.

No change from the debate, for the obvious reason that they are all anti Trump votes, not pro Biden votes.

You must compare to exactly the same methodology to have a meaningful measurement. So CNN vs CNN. Others will release and they must also compare to themselves earlier, and must be outside the MOE.

As of now, I see no evidence Biden’s results were hurt by the debate performance. We need to shut up about it. Don’t help them find a stronger opponent for Trump.


8 posted on 07/03/2024 7:47:45 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Angelino97

The Lamestream media gets its marching orders from the DNC, and the fake polls they’re coming out with are determining the narrative and are test balloons to see how Cackles would really do. They have their published polls, and then they have their internal polls. They’re trying to see if the fake public polls can make any inroads into their internal polling.


9 posted on 07/03/2024 7:47:49 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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This just gets more and more amusing! Going to be a 4 month long comedy to watch!!


10 posted on 07/03/2024 7:48:06 AM PDT by Michigander222
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To: Angelino97
Biden’s fate could depend on what polls show over the next few weeks,

So power hungry that the fact that Biden is demented and unable to do the job is not even a thought.

11 posted on 07/03/2024 7:49:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Angelino97

Harris is the de facto nominee. There are no other options.


12 posted on 07/03/2024 7:49:57 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: z3n

Making her vp was the democrats built in insurance policy against Republicans impeaching biden because let’s face it, the thought of her being POTUS was too horrible to even consider.

Well, now that little tactic has now blown up in their faces and they are the ones with they’re panties I a wad and don’t know what to do.

OBTW, that was the exact reason obama picked biden as well.


13 posted on 07/03/2024 7:53:56 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Angelino97

LOL. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought we’d be getting these headlines right before the Dem convention. Biden’s debate performance is the gift that keeps on giving.


14 posted on 07/03/2024 7:58:06 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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15 posted on 07/03/2024 7:59:28 AM PDT by Fai Mao (The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts for pedophiles and perverts.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
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16 posted on 07/03/2024 7:59:50 AM PDT by KamalaKancel
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought we’d be getting these headlines right before the Dem convention.

Not to mention 25 house reps and the NYTimes saying he should not run. I only hope stubborn demented joe holds out longer so the media has little time to put lipstick on kamala.

17 posted on 07/03/2024 8:00:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Angelino97

Quick. More lawfare. Hurry, hurry. Trump will be a dictator. He will never leave office.


18 posted on 07/03/2024 8:01:56 AM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: Angelino97

Wouldn’t that require the 25th Amendment? You can’t just give delegates away can you?


19 posted on 07/03/2024 8:03:30 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts (,,)
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To: HandBasketHell

“They’re trying to see if the fake public polls can make any inroads into their internal polling.”
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BINGO!!


20 posted on 07/03/2024 8:04:08 AM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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