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To: DoodleBob
As I wrote in the SCOTUSblog thread, I don't think this is a big anti-2a ruling.

Think about it, commonsense says that a person who poses an immediate risk may be disarmed. That requires laws and a court. That implies and requires due process. The questions come in the application of commonsense--what establishes the threat is one issue, what court ruling a second, and lastly, the due process, e.g., when it ends, how to revisit.

And understand I own firearms, I am a firearms instructor, I shoot competitively, etc., so I'm speaking of direct personal interest. I believe in the Second Amendment. As well, I know there are some people that should not be allowed to buy, own, or possess firearms.

13 posted on 06/21/2024 8:03:11 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump Please Build the Wall, And Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone. End H1B!)
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To: Reno89519

Anyone that dangerous should maybe be separated from society rather than allowed to walk among us, because guns aren’t the only thing such a person could use to cause great harm to others. Furthermore it is galling to make each of the rest of us prove we aren’t them, e.g. when trying to buy guns, rather than placing the burdens on them for being so dangerous.


21 posted on 06/21/2024 8:19:12 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: Reno89519
I agree, conservatives and 2d Amendment advocates should avoid main stream media articles as they will claim this as a big anti-gun win. While I personally think Roberts is a judicial coward, he does seem to take a swipe at lower courts trying to creatively interpret Bruen to justify regurgitate anti-gun laws. One thing I have noticed in the past and it may just be coincidence. SCOTUS hands liberals or conservatives a big win. They cheer and crow about how great the courts is, until the last week and a big case breaks against them. Then we hate them, they are not conservative enough or too conservative. I suspect they will not be splitting the baby next week on Chevron and Immunity. Both sides may want to erect guillotines outside the court house.

I suspect SCOTUS neuters Chevron limiting agencies powers to effectively create laws and remands the Immunity case back to the lower courts. They will say that Presidents have immunity while performing their duties as President. Lower courts will have to explain why a charge is not considered Presidential duties. Then that will be appealed, effectively killing the cases against Trump until probably the summer of 2025 at the earliest. By the it will be mute. I also think J6 prisoner will get a win from SCOTUS, if not they will open Pandora's box, legally speaking.

22 posted on 06/21/2024 8:31:37 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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To: Reno89519

It does not require a trial and weighing of the evidence, it is an ex parte proceeding.

And that can become self-authenticating: “he must be guilty of {fill in the blank}, he’s got a restraining order.”


28 posted on 06/21/2024 8:48:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Reno89519
Think about it,

I have thought about it. As usual, the phrase "think about it" is followed by utter rubbish.

commonsense says that

Common sense says that government can and will abuse any power given to it to oppress We the People. Just ask the people who stuck their necks out for then President Trump back on January 6, 2021.

That implies and requires due process.

Even Mr. Trump is in favor of disarming people first and having "due process" whenever. For the democrats, it will be disarmament first, "due process" never.

31 posted on 06/21/2024 8:59:53 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Reno89519
I know there are some people that should not be allowed to buy, own, or possess firearms.

Then they shouldn't be out on the street.

33 posted on 06/21/2024 9:21:03 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Reno89519
As I wrote in the SCOTUSblog thread, I don't think this is a big anti-2a ruling.

Ridiculous. These types of orders can be had without even letting the 'accused' say a word in court in his defense. This is a grave miscarriage of justice. All it takes are the accusations of a single vindictive and evil woman. God bless Thomas. Screw the rest of them.

41 posted on 06/21/2024 1:56:28 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Reno89519
I know there are some people that should not be allowed to buy, own, or possess firearms.

you totally discredit yourself with this bit of idiocy. If you are incarcerated, you lose many rights while you are incarcerated. Once you have done your time and paid your debt to society, you are merely another human being. The fact that the government thinks it can still take away rights granted to you by God, is an abuse of power.

42 posted on 06/21/2024 2:01:17 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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